QuoteThis shows how (one group) operate on the fringes, luring in people into fad diets and other "alternative" views or practices (such as drinking Hydrogen Peroxide) by posting seemingly interesting information which is designed purely to promote Desteni.... The post at the blog called "30 Bananas a Day... Sucks!" is the 18 year old author's description of struggling
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And another thing that's even more frustrating: Every time I talk to people about you and your experiences with EFWA, every time I post something on Rick Ross, every time Damon posts to his blog, you run around in e-mails and private conversations and tell everyone that I'm NOT really your sister. You tell people not to talk to me because I'm a troll. That I'm really just some
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To whom it may concern: henbakjr has been banned from this message board.
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Well, ghostwriter1984, you need to start with the truth. Damon doesn't disagree with your representation of the Natlfed cult. He disagrees with the lies that you write about him. He's not a former member of EFWA but you continually say he is. He went to you for help with his brother who was in EFWA but instead you posted on your blog that he was a troll who spammed you. You lied and sa
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Hi moderator, Thanks for the links. There were some very interesting articles in there. It helped me better understand what happened to her. However, there was nothing in there to help me with my situation. I'm right back where I started - with a sister who needs help but won't talk to me and let me help. Like I said, she blogs about NATLFED and is aware she suffers some problems fr
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grit: NATLFED is a destructive cult in my opinion, that has hurt many people. See You might find the following links helpful. See This is a collection of cult recovery articles. Also see This is a directory of helping professional counseling resources. The people and organizations listed have specific experience helping people that have left cults and cult-like groups.
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How can I help a family member who used to be in a cult? The situation is difficult because my sister not only feels that she doesn't need any help, but also because she refuses to have any contact with me. I'm sure it's because the cult brainwashed her into thinking that her family is evil. As a teenager, my sister "Hannah" got involved with a group called the Eastern
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Quoteghostwriter1984There are several ESWA's affiliated with NATLFED. There are some who say it isn't a cult, others that say it didn't start out as one but became one, and others still who say it was a cult from day one. Former cadres will argue this point publicly as well as privately. If you are interested in a private conversation to exchange insights, that's fine. My
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All of ESWA is affiliated with NATLFED. I have gotten donations and given them for their calendars too. ESWA operates underground, is anti capitalism, and reports no income taxes although they collect a lot of money. They also have a contact sheet when government officials like police come and investigate. It is all organized. Once I was even threatened by someone at ESWA. I don't
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There are several ESWA's affiliated with NATLFED. There are some who say it isn't a cult, others that say it didn't start out as one but became one, and others still who say it was a cult from day one. Former cadres will argue this point publicly as well as privately. If you are interested in a private conversation to exchange insights, that's fine. My experience is that p
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I find it quite odd that falling_leaves has been unmasked as Denise, dsm, on the xJC's and yet continues, without a blink from anyone who previously banned her for her apalling behaviour, to preach reconciliation and restorative justice there now. She is already laying down the ground rules of the 'dialogue' which of course demand that no mention is made of specific instances of
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ya she's a star all right. real pro at videos to where she coffs and chokes. she rambles off on wierd tangets. ya gotta dig the crazy laffing to. in one video she has a bird liting on her head and crawling on her face while she giggles hysertically. saw some where she wrapped her head in a rag and was howling some chant to the muslums. ya i can see people talking her serious. now when ya goo
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Here is an interesting conversation confusing Larouche and NatLfed but rich in links and participant comments, and they do figure out the different cults by the end: And this interesting political view of Jim Jones: WARNING: these links are to a community of left-wing activists, so make sure you know what you are doing if you register there. (They are probably all fine people but a littl
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The prayer-group leader mentioned to me that someone he knows has bragged of having "run with" "Gino Perente" as if that name was supposed to get a reaction from him. He never knew who Perente was and had never heard of NatLFed until I told him my cult background, explaining why I avoid certain kinds of activities. He understood the PTSD but when I explained the source, and m
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I think that you are proselytising. I think that you are still using the tactics learned in NatlFed, you have just switched masters. I do think it is important to separate the larger belief system from the cults that exploit it for their own purposes. This isn't about belief systems, this is about different groups of exploiters scrapping over the human spoils for the money and power t
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This is sooo much what I have been trying to get at! I was expected to do all of this when I was in NatLFed and they were thoroughly entangled with using the arts to promote serious political mind-control propaganda but because it was done outside the actual NatLFed office (it was cadres inside each and every committee in town) no one would ever beleive me. Look through my different threads
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When I was dealing with trying to report the harassment I faced upon exiting NatLFed, several of the people who took reports used exactly those New Age "be here now" tactics to refuse the reports. I would try to report a stalking incident and the person at the desk would say "is it happening now?" and I would say "this happened this afternoon around 3" and the person
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Thank you, moderator. the "On Topic" part is what I was trying to re-inforce with my opening post and I did not intend to restrict anything as to persons, so I apologize for any misunderstanding. I will start the thread over, and I will also ask that the topic be respected, which is to track a specifc set of cults that exploit the Catholic Church community both against its members
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The question of Liberation Theology would be a digression, but I had to mention it as an important peripheral point. Now, to quote David Romo, the Santa Muerte "High Priest", in 2005: "Cult spokesman David Romo Guillén, who styles himself as a bishop, declared that his group "The Mexico-US Tridentine Catholic Church" or "The Traditional Catholic Mex-USA Church&
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"In general, if some material upsets us so much that we cannot examine it but we feel compelled to attack the person who presented the upsetting material, that is a sign that we have been subjected to some kind of manipulation at some point in our lives. This is especially true if you deny the obvious facts in the material provided." -But the point is you DON"T PROVIDE THE MATER
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"Now we see the full death-cult coming out of the Bible belt as "Repent America" but "Repent America" is only a small reaction to what has been going on: the actual full-scale emasculation of Black Americans by the Gay movment and the attacks on our children and our families and the destruction of what was once a thriving civilization. That Snopes article describing th
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This description of the gays attacking the Repent America street preachers in Philadelphia by blowing whistles is not the first time this happens. My name is Denise Matteau. I don't care anymore what you bastards reading this want to do to me. I did not see that story in 2004 because I was burying my father and trying to protect my daughter, who was attacked at my sister's house
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Oh, here is a HUGE alert: I just looked at a parish newsletter and there appears to be a person in our church hierarchy who uses both an anglo and a hispanic last name. At first I thought there was just a co-incidental common first name (with an odd spelling) but they share the same phone number. NatLFed, my old cult, that I also identify with TBTN, the one I think is involved with Miss Arr
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QuotedsmHi Sparky, If you want an independent look at the cult in action, read "Who Stole Feminism?" by Christina Hoff Sommers. The exact same cult, TBTN. I was actually an employee at a small college that she describes, and I actually witnessed one of the mob attacks that she describes. I bet at least a few of these cults have Scientology material as well as NatLFed in their t
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Here is a quote corboy posted in another thread on a related cult that mentions TBTN, and the related cult was famous for inventing fronts to infiltrate mainstream churches: >>>>>>How High Value Recruits are Enticed: >>>>Quote: For all the attorneys, doctors and other professionals out there: the analogy between the NATLFED entities and Scientology does seem
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Hi Sparky, If you want an independent look at the cult in action, read "Who Stole Feminism?" by Christina Hoff Sommers. The exact same cult, TBTN. I was actually an employee at a small college that she describes, and I actually witnessed one of the mob attacks that she describes. I bet at least a few of these cults have Scientology material as well as NatLFed in their training
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I know as a former cadre there are those who wish to forget the past and get on with their life after Natlfed. After all the years away from the organization does not mean I don't care about the members and those still with the organization. I still would like to see change in this Country, who wouldn't. Maybe the organization was not the best way to go about it, then who else would da
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The cult I was in was NatLFed, which ran alongside Larouche in many ways but was much larger and more deeply rooted in the college student population. Larouche's own lack of education limited his following, but NatLFed grew out of a coalescence of disaffected 60's-70's radicals out of the old SDS and Weather Underground and Black Panthers and it parasitically rode along with the Ce
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I am going to describe a common technique that I think is also covered in a lot of the classic cult-mind-control literature. Steve Hassan covered some of this in his work on the NatLFed political cult but it is also common in religious and other types of cult. Basically, the mind has several layers of attention to the outside world. Some people are strongly inclined to pay attention closely to
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I had spent 10 years working with EFWA Wayne Co. During my time with the organization I never knew all of this bad stuff that was going on and all the bad stuff that happening to people in NOC. I feel now a little angry over how a organization could treat people that way. The full timers that made a committment did so thinking they was going to make a difference. I had met Gino a few times on my
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