changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > puddington Wrote: > > > I'm pretty sure the LW folks say that we are > > instruments of Satan. > > We may be instruments of Satan, but for the most > part we're considerate and actually have some > concern for the well being of others--which I > think distinguishes
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > puddington Wrote: > > > I'm pretty sure the LW folks say that we are > > instruments of Satan. > > We may be instruments of Satan, but for the most > part we're considerate and actually have some > concern for the well being of others--which I > think distinguishes
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Beautifully stated. thanks,
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Unapologetic Apologetic it is a pattern all cults have; keep the new ones over busy so they do not have time to think. Years back in the old days, JRS would come to town. Service every night and late on school night. I couldn't get home work done and I was so exhausted in class. I know the same with my then future husband. His mother was his math teacher. She showed him no mercy knowing
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HOME schooling concept opens up a can of worms and expose Pandora's box for so many cults in general. isolation from the rest of the world in order to no "think" for yourself. I am not against home schooling is that is really best alternative and home schooling maybe the best alternative for some families isolating in "kingdom school" does not allow children to figure
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GSchaeff Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wow. It's incredibly telling of Shiloh's ulterior > motives that they want homeschooling space at > their facility only to turn around and treat those > kids as hired help. It's likely that they justify > the homeschooling space by saying the surrounding > school districts are a bad
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I know for fact that a number in Anaheim were so under paid that they got food stamps, title 19. I remember one person got paid a bit more so they could give money under the table to some one else. ( My thoughts are not coming out as I hoped) My ex got a higher salary because I was not able to work for awhile. Since I was home "doing nothing" I had kindgdom biz kids get dropped off at
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You askeda very good question. I can only give my opinion. In some ways some people who were looking to profit from "exposing cults' seem to do their own twisting iwthout a lot of real first hand knowledge. Or they had limited first hand experience then made their own cognitively biased interpretations. I would guess that there were plenty of rumors started by people who had a gripe
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Tknc Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hello all, > > I have a question in regards to some of the > practices around baptism and the church in the > late 70's early 80's. What did that ceremony look > and feel like? I was told I was baptized and > blessed by JRS himself and that I was given an > impartation of the spirit f
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lol!
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WOW! "Validation" puddington is a good word for spying as well. "They" don't want to be exposed, either. If one goes down, the likely hood others will be exposed. i gues they have no confidence in what ever "higher power"/ god they believe in. I personally don't believe "their" invisable god is anything like the creator of the universe. I w
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liy rose your used the per word 'charade" when you wrote " second > thoughts about Gary's sincerity in perpetuating > JRS's charade about being God's remnant to bring > forth judgment and the kingdom,' I can not say for any one else but fro myself. I at some mys relatsionhip to god/ jesus was real, spiritual growth and it was personal. some where
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Binaca! LOL I have no idea. But I'm not around anyone any more who dumps it on thier tongue after finishing up left over communion Wine..evvn the unopened bottles.
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I apologize for being a page hog. I have given some back history on the walk. Even though I have given you as accraute as i can typ-o plese do not eer take my word for fact. Look where we got outselves from believing everything one mand said. If you have not yet read any thing about pre-walk days her is pretty good link for the history on Azusa. Yes, this is where the walk got its' start.
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The Jewel. I agree. We all needed to read what you said. Big hugs to you, who ever you are.
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I don't know if this will help any one or not about the tele-evangelists. I have a good friend who grew up aroudna family member who became a very weathly TV preacher who got caught to say the least with out names. The family story goes something like this. The TV preacher was a good salemans. Ond day a travleing evangeists came to town. He pitched his tent next to the salemens favori
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jhorning Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > QuoteChanged4meI remember when M started > designating the wife as the spiritual leader of a > marriage and that husbands were to submit > themselves unto their wife. I remember the date, > time, place where it happened to me. Part of > the"pitch" to accept this was M telling my wife &g
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TheJewel BINGO! I think they thought we would never know. No revelation of the coming internet with vast information.
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lary lobo "Until people are free, I don't think you can take too seriously the relationships. Designated relationships are not genuine, since they are not based on freedom of choice." I married a man who had been a freind for 10 years. he was not whom I wanted to marry, but whom I was told to marry. I did as I was told. My mistake. My oldest daughter has such a hard time with the
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Here’s a question: Besides the First Principles, > we were also told in the LW that JRS was the one > who started the act of “singing in the spirit”. > I suspect that is not really true and that other > early pentecostal groups were doing this long > before 1951. From my perspective. JRS seem
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As a parent I have tried to teach my children to take responcibilit for our own behavior and choices. Own up to any mistakes a fix it. That is a sign of maturity. It is so distrubing that "the walk" has repeatedly demonstrated the lack of maturity by having to lay blame on someone else even when "Life Happens". My conceren is this: we all have loved ones from the walk i
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Invisible Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Changed again wrote : > > ><I.'m hearing that the L.W. members are being > told > > that Marilyn is under a vicious attack of > hatred > >from ex-members and this is why she is ill> > --------------- > If you remember back over the years - this type of > theme -
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Hi Puddington! Enough of it decades after the fact. So odd for for me being around age 10 I think. The First Prinicples wer printed ona printing press at Christian Tabaernacle. I saw it happen. I do not know if they printed in in Ca or not. But one of CT members was a type setter...so free labor. "We" also printed song books. I remember a few visitors made comments than "t
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larry lobo have I told you yet, how much I appriciate writing your insight? "The point I think needs to be brought to light is the deception TLWF uses to cover up its teachings. I personally would have more respect for them if they would just say they are not mainstream Christianity and the goal is to get people connected and submissive to Marilyn. The fact that it is hidden in the variou
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NickleandDimed we can't read mind nor turn back the clock to what was in the mind. I have have searched a lot. Putting everything togeher I know that jrs was at AngelousTemple. Grandpa sTevens studied there and Jrs was basically under foot at age 10. I also know you can not believe every interpretation your hear or read. But, I am finding so many of jrs mentors dabbeled in many other things
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I just got a shock as I explored You Tube. When I wsa young and remember jrs speaking at Christima Tabernacle. he often mention namesl liek Aimme, Simple MacPheason; billy Sunday; Smith wiggleworth. I know a number of you who have engangin about the wlak know taht jrs was defrocked from Four Square. So was my late father in law because they could not follow the rules. I don't know if th
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I would like to be able to connect all the questions I have read so far. But WOW! it is hard to keep track of and not stay on all day and night. I have more to "expose" about the "probe" possilby involving hynosis and a comment about jrs imparting his spirit by head to head transferance. See if any thing rings a bell for you. There are some "tricks of the trade&quo
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sorry I seem to be hogging the fourm. Did you all happen to read this on the front page of this site? While I do not know there is any relationship to the walk I find it interesting. I have been wondering just how many former leaders in the walk who did not over dosed on drugs or alcohol started their own groups under names we would not associate with our history? Just currious.
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > NancyB I believe you. That your children or child > were/was beaten while in a Kingdom School. It's > not uncommon. As some teachers are untrained. In > working with special needs kids. Like your son. It > can happen while no one else is watching. In > private. In the restroom. A closet.
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Hey NickelandDimed. You asked " do you know. If the probe involved hypnotism? Can't recall if someone on the forum said that. Or did Nichols say it was John hypnotizing members." I don't know who Nichols is that he thinks he can tell it all. Unless he was an opportunist in the back room and trying to profit off of the good people who were taken advantage of. I wish I cou
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