Hello again folks, I had hoped it would not be necessary for me to post on this forum again..I really believed that the leaders in SMC had turned a corner and had realised the error of their ways. Yes, I received cards from Grace Gault, Diana Rutherford, Alison Speirs and the Greenock couple...after I had publicly stated on the forum that I had written to them and was awaiting a response. T
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Hello everyone, I have now received a written response from the 3 SMC leaders that I wrote to with my apologies for being insulting and critical. As I mentioned, I also received a response from the couple who were my friends. The most recent response was from Diana Rutherford. I should have acknowledged it sooner but I have been away on holiday. I will quote the entire note: "Dear
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Hello everyone, Another Sunday is here and the folks in Struthers will be gathering together. I don't feel so upset as I did a few months ago when I think on SMC...just an immense sadness for all who have been involved and for those who are still there, including the leadership. I reached out to Grace Gault with all that I had to offer. On returning from the summer camp one July I c
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Hello folks, Yesterday I received a card from the couple from SMC who were my close friends for about 8 years. It thanked me for my letter, they said they forgive me and that they wish me well. I did not send my letters to elicit a response. I really didn't know if I would hear anything from the people I wrote to. I suppose you could say that I threw down a challenge to them and called
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Hello folks, In the post today I received brief notes from both Grace Gault and Alison Speirs in response to my apology to them. Alison thanked me for my letter and for my apology, adding that of course she forgives me. I had apologised to her for being personally insulting. She noted from my letter that I am now married and wished us happiness with one another. She closed the note with the
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Hello everyone, Thank you all for your words of encouragement and also for pointing out the pitfalls of some of SMC teaching. I find it very hard to know what to retain and what to jettison. Yesterday was very difficult and painful for me as Sundays often are. I have not as yet had any response to my letters to the 3 leaders and to the couple from Greenock. I included my phone number as wel
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Hello everyone, I would just like to elaborate a little on my decision to write the letters I have spoken about in my last post. When I first arrived at SMC in 2005 I was in a poor state spiritually. I remember the first time I spoke with Grace when I told her that I didn't know if I was saved or truly born again. With the discernment she had she assured me that I was "clean"
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Hello again folks, Yesterday I wrote letters to Grace Gault, Alison Speirs, Diana Rutherford and the couple from Greenock SMC whom I have referred to on this forum. In my letters I apologised for personally insulting them in my posts and for the way in which I have treated them. I have recently repented before God for the way in which I have reacted to the SMC leadership and to some of t
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Hi folks! It has been good to read the posts regarding the baptism in the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues. It is Biblical and brings with it many blessings to a Christian. This should then result in others being touched by the out flowing of the Holy Spirit. I do not believe that we are baptised in the Spirit solely for our own benefit, just to give us some kind of spiritual "high&quo
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Hello again! I can't really make head nor tail of much of Cbarbs last post. I had thought of sending Cbarb a pm but what I am going to say needs to reach a wider audience. If you believe some or any of the things mentioned in the above post and if you find yourself preoccupied by them, in the way that Cbarb is, then you really do need to seek professional help. There are doctors who de
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Hi folks! I agree with Cornelius when he says that there are aspects of Cedars School that are a bit "iffy", although that is an understatement. I would use the word "alarming" especially when we are talking about vulnerable young lives. I wonder when prospective parents meet Alison Speirs for the first time are they aware that the smiling lady sitting across the desk fr
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Hi folks, I am coming to the conclusion that I am wasting my time posting about those idiots that are the SMC leadership. We are giving them more importance than they deserve or merit. Grace Gault, Alison Speirs and Diana Rutherford are a complete joke. They are a bunch of deluded, self important and vain women who think very highly of themselves. When you encounter Grace Gault outside her
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Hi again folks! Sorry for going quiet on you...I have had a certain wedding and honeymoon to attend to! I know that when I was a member of SMC I didn't object to church funds being poured into Cedars School. The school was very much regarded as an outreach and was considered to be a very precious work of the church. I very much wanted to be a part of Cedars and to give of myself an
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Hello again folks! Time to come out of hibernation! (Sorry to ruin your day SMC leadership!) I would like to mention a few concerns I have about Cedars School. Three months ago I was talking to a lovely young Mum whose daughter spent a good number of years at Cedars. This lady and her husband decided to withdraw their daughter when she reached the age of 16/17. They sent her to the local
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Hi folks! I feel that this forum is somehow not the place for someone who speaks from the heart and has been hurt by SMC. I do not get some kind of kick out of posting here. Some people clearly do. Maybe there are certain contributors who think that by constantly carping, criticising and nit picking that they are being cool and objective. They really need to sit down before they post and ask the
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RRModerator, I don't know if your warning was directed at me. Did I unwittingly attack Clive? I'm sorry. I didn't mean to. Posting this warning and addressing it "to whom it may concern" leaves us wondering who you are warning. Posting here is becoming like walking over a minefield. Is it really worth it I wonder. Kindest regards, not so Happy Survivor.
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Hi folks! Corboy, thank you for your last post. I found it very helpful. I came to this forum looking for kindness and community. It is my only community as I will never seek to join any group of Christians again. Every church, it seems to me, is someone's fiefdom. Organised religion seems to bring out the worst in those who participate. I often visit the websites of local churches and tr
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Hi folks! I have decided to start posting again. I know my Christian friend is an avid follower of this thread and I have every confidence that she will rein in her husband the next time he gets over-excited. So no more worries about threats. Far be it from me to distract anyone's attention from Clive's worthy campaign/mission to encourage us all to turn the other cheek...don'
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It really was not my intention to mislead anyone regarding the source of this threat. I want to stop posting on this thread because the comments that I have made on this forum have resulted in us being threatened. By revealing personal details I have identified myself and made myself a target. That was my mistake. Being anonymous on this thread protects us. Unfortunately it also means t
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It was not a member of SMC who threatened us. It was the husband of a Struthers sympathiser. I offended the girl by being so critical of Struthers. This man who threatened my fiancé and I has no faith position as I understand. His wife is a Christian yet she saw fit to give her aggressive husband my mobile phone number. I never said it was a member of SMC. ThePetitor: I repeat th
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Hi everyone, I feel sickened and afraid. I have offended someone by the things I have said in my posts on this thread. Yesterday my fiancé and I were threatened by the partner of the person I have offended, the threat took the form of this man threatening to pay us a visit at our home. I can no longer post here. I have to think of my fiancé and my own personal safety. It is tragic that a
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Weary never did respond to requests to give his/her reasons for posting on the forum despite being asked on numerous occasions....very revealing! But no doubt weary will never want to speak of "it" again...just what the Struthers folk said to me when I asked awkward and inconvenient questions. We have all been upfront and honest and shown our hand and revealed something of ourselv
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weary, I take your point. Doing good and being kind are both very commendable ideals to live out. You are not wrong to love your enemies. I was wrong to make the assumptions I made. I didn't actually say that you had come through life unscathed. I did invite you to enlighten us as to your interest in the forum and why you follow it. You are not under any obligation to say why, of cours
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Weary, I put my hand up and I confess that I have fallen short of perfection. You may have read my earlier posts which recounted all that I have suffered at the hands of SMC and very recently too. I know that I am not taking the long view. But as Cbarb has said forgiveness takes time. My loving Heavenly Father understands this. It is not a prerequisite of this forum that before you can post yo
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The Petitor Thank you very much for your response. It has taken me a while to respond because the awful realisation of the damage and harm that SMC has inflicted on me is only just dawning on me. It hasn't fully sunk in yet. I thought that physically getting out was all that was needed to recover. I see now that it's one thing to get out of SMC and quite another thing to get SMC out
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I have carefully reconsidered my decision to withdraw from the forum. If I am careful, maybe I could still contribute. At the moment it is a lifeline for me that I cannot afford to jettison. Lintar123, thank you for your words of support and encouragement. Although I have physically left SMC I am still suffering. I will soon be married and living in a new city. I am faced with a situation wher
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When I came before my God this evening I came to the realisation that I was wrong to poke fun at Alison Speirs and Grace Gault. Ultimately this achieves nothing. It brings me and this forum into disrepute and it takes away from the truth and validity of what we are recounting of our experiences in SMC. I wish to apologise to all those who contribute to this forum who have suffered in SMC. I ha
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Dear folks, I really don't know why I am still allowing myself to be upset by SMC. My fiancé is really cheesed off at the effect they all still have on me. He said last night that he only went along to Glasgow SMC Saturday night meetings in the way one would visit a zoo, saying "I've never seen one of them before". Well, now he has seen this exotic species and he is less th
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Hi folks! I think I have cracked the identity of our friend "Bingowings"! Upon investigation, I found the following on the "NHS Choices" website: "Banish those flabby upper arms for good with this 10-minute bingo wings workout". It must have been Alison Speirs, headmistress of Cedars School of Excellence and the supreme leader of the Glasgow branch of SM
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Sorry folks! My last post has not made sense. I must not have sent my earlier post. I have had an encounter with a Struthers Sympathiser. A girl I considered to be a good friend. I would like to warn the forum that there are those who may not be attending meetings but who are nevertheless giving tacit and passive support to SMC. A sign of a Struthers Sympathiser is someone who will ne
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