Firstly, this is a free forum that is well moderated. Secondly, it's OK to disagree, to be vulnerable, to be confused and angry. After all, this is not the JCs forum. Thirdly, because we don't have heavy-handed moderation on this forum, there are going to be times when we struggle at being honest and enthusiastic with being too clever and too ambitious. Finally, we all have a r
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At the free intro night, one of the first things the 'snake oil saleswoman' asked everyone to do was, 'SILENCE YOUR LITTLE VOICE'. Oh yeah, I thought (or at least my little voice did) and I suspected something was very wrong. Okay, I can accept that our little, inner voice may at times not be the harbinger of truth. It may, indeed, sometimes carry on it's tiny waveleng
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Fair enough. I did say, 'free introduction'. It's basically one evening when the new graduates are encouraged (coerced) to invite friends and family to show their zeal for and dedication to Landmark. It's a pain in backside, for sure, but it cost nothing but time and a little frustration trying to talk to smiley-happy people. It's just kind of fun when you coax out their
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Can someone please define 'NOW'? I mean, when is now? Ooops, it's just gone! Oh, you say read this book to arrive at now. So, it's in the future?
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If you think you can stomach it, go to the free introduction. No doubt your Landmark addicted partner will suggest as much. I think if you want to understand, you have to look into the eyes of the beast. You need first hand experience, especially if you want to write about it. This is something I did and it certainly cemented my distaste for this organisation. I don't say this lightly. Fr
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Dave must be shaking in his slippers with the thought that a book may or may not be published. Of course, this forum is a handy way to communicate quickly and inexpensively. And from what I know, and have read here, someone like Apostate would not compromise his integrity (or waste his time) by writing slanderously and/or untruthfully. His testimony (Evidence in support of a fact or assertion; pr
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Thanks, vlinden, for posting that Landmark waiver. From my experience, a typical Lekkie wouldn't read more than the first couple of sentences. Someone attracted to LGAT madness wants a quick fix and they want to be one of the special few. Quote...need special seating or must stand and stretch frequently or have any other special needs, please notify the Program Supervisor before the Pr
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QuoteMalcolm Wesley WREST(.....(As usual...) am greatly enjoying the depth of your posts Apostate !... thank you!) I agree. The quality and depth of Apostate's posts have been a pleasure to read. How it must irritate McKay to know that someone with Apostate's strong, clear mind slipped from his grasp. But, I suppose, that's the point, right? QuoteApostateI see David has stoop
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I've said it often enough: it's sad, really. It would seem that McKay is a classic example of someone handicapped by his intellect. I don't think anyone can deny that the man has the ability to articulate his thoughts reasonably well, but, alas, he lacks the emotional depth and social skills to do anything substantial with his gift. He's the first to admit that he has diffi
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One of my chief gripes with Dave is his insistent need in trying to reveal the identities of people posting on the Internet. To put it plainly, he's a f~<king lowlife: QuoteDAVE: Well, we finally worked out who "Blackhat" is. Her name is Anita Walker PTOLEMYGLENN: Are you 100% positive before you go outing someone out, and you're wrong, that this is who Blackhate is?
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These Children of Dave give themselves away. How sad they'll never have a chance to grow into adult independence, of mind, of spirit.
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Is there a written transcript of Anon's message/s?
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I think you've 'hit the nail on the head'. From my understanding, there was definitely a 'golden age' for the JCs when current ex-members were involved in many 'good' works, such as, cleaning the sewers and setting up small medical facilities in India. I wonder now if the extent of JC's 'good' works is being hunched over computer screens readin
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And a way to get you through the door...and then comes the aggressive manipulation, love bombing, ego-inflating, etc.
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I think that's a worthy interpretation, Apostate.
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I will safely assume that Landmark ideology (including The Secret) shares a similar contempt for 'traditional' psychological practices as Scientology. I mean, it suits their recruitment drive if they don't ostracize potential members, in this case, the unknown abuser. They've obviously got the victims money and her mind, and from their for-profit ideology, it's just not p
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And, Dave: How bizarre that Craig is now trying to pretend that he and Attila introduced us to Gandhi, and that I was jealous of their "new" teaching! I didn't see any reference to what you're claiming in apostate's post/s. Dave, again: ...even though I have been a pacifist since I was eight years old... It makes me laugh when you state things like, being a pacif
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QuoteJack Oskar LarmAnd just when the circus was getting dull: JCs and Tattoos I, for one, will be interested in Herr McKay's responses to this sticky matter, particularly 'sad' posts from potential recruits...lol So, Dave tends to agree. He is inclined or disposed to go along with the interpretation of one of his 'disciples' regarding a sensitive matter. I wonder
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For Elyas' peace of mind, regarding: I'm still trying to figure out how this is supposed to be "quite revealing". (From the JC thread: JC Forum) Why don't you ask the brains of your outfit...I'm sure he can explain.
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And if they claim it's not a SECRET then when their mockumentary comes out it'll have to be called something like, The Overt or The Known or The Visible or The Revealed. Having read their spiel, it has nothing to do with visibility or overtness. Besides that, none of those titles has the same commercial ring, do they? Sounds like yet another way to make money while the bandwagon is popu
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And just when the circus was getting dull: JCs and Tattoos I, for one, will be interested in Herr McKay's responses to this sticky matter, particularly 'sad' posts from potential recruits...lol
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I don't know AlAntony's position within the JCs, but one of his latest posts is quite revealing, especially in context to what has been posted here recently: I truly feel sorry for Shazoolo who has not considered the truth of ‘The Bible’ at all. Shazoolo comes across as self-righteous, prideful and in desperate need of a brain/hair transplant. I agree with Roland, Shazoolo is a nitpi
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Quoteapostate... Dave had his day dream while sitting on the balcony and said it was so real he was reaching for the non existent rifle before he came to address everyone in a wide eyed state and relayed his profound epiphany that he said bordered on a vision while in a conscious state. Personally, I think it was manifestation of his narcissistic need for control, not just over activities outsid
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QuoteapostateThey claim they are individuals, but I have never seen one example of individuality taking place on their so called forum. No disagreement, nobody going "Hang on Dave... reel it back a bit", or "Dave, I disagree". Not once have I seen that. Just silent consent, or egging on! Hey Jeremy, how about telling Dave to get used to the speed of your avatar and to
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QuoteMalcolm Wesley WREST...people who choose to participate in the forum should be able to do so at a level of "disclosure" with which they are personally comfortable... I agree.
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Sorry about that, RR.
Forum: Destructive Churches

QuoteThe Anticult He'll probably end up living on a boat on the ocean at some point. I think Werner (Cayman Islands) might have a spare room, somewhere. Coincidentally, our 'news' programs did a story on the Cruise-Scientology video last night. He is definitely losing favour with the media...it'll be interesting to see if his next movie makes any money! And all that CO
Forum: Celebrities associated with "cult-like" groups

You're a funny girl, FF! Up and down, yeah, it's relative (but not with your relatives - yuk!). I suppose, because Aussies are so casual and don't like to big-note themselves, we don't mind being called the Land Downunder. Anyway, Australia looks funny when you turn the map upside down. We kind of like Tasmania where it is...lol. And, anyway, most of us think of North as Up
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Quotefreedom fighterI think I should attach a bull bar and go find some cult leaders. I'll find them mongrels, go muster the whole lot of them, and make them into a mystery bag. Hey mates, sound like a good plan? Oh, don't forget to fire up the barbie! Hell, she's more Aussie than me! And she doesn't mind a cold beer, either. I definitely second the motion of making Freedom
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Okay, my apologies, Imjustme. I re-read your post and now see that it was humorous too. As Freedom Fighter and Sparky have stated, we need more humour, especially in this dark and heavy time.
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