QuotetwigkatPosted this in the wrong place earlier, and got no responses at all - would be grateful if someone could view this and respond! A friend of mine has been going to Avatar for over a year and thinks they are the best thing out. Despite trying to convince him that this is a cult, he makes light of this or jokes about going on his "brainwashing" courses. As far as he is c
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Quotequestion ladyThe use of the term "Large Group Awareness Trainings" appears to be a misnomer. It makes it sound like a good thing. Calling these seminars "awareness trainings" is rather like calling a lobotomy a "mental enhancement procedure". In order to bring true awareness to this problem, we need to name it accurately. The masters of manipulation are expe
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You can send a private message after making ten posts. This is a requirement to protect members from harrassment. EZ
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Buy a used copy of the earliest edition that contains the material about "est," which was (I believe) removed in subsequent editions. EZ
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuoteEurope-girlHi, I have been involved with Landmark and Est for a long time - and it's also a long time ago. Browsing the internet and seeing the French documentary, I've noticed that nothing has changed... (of course not). I'd love to share :wink: my experiece. So if you have questions or just want to chat about what is was/is like, please react! Don't worry, I'm
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Which group were you involved in? And welcome, by the way. EZ
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

QuoteJack Oskar LarmRick, I'm really starting to miss that EDIT button. I know I can PREVIEW or use a word processor to make life somewhat easier, but... Would it be possible to grant an EDIT feature after a certain number of posts? Jack. You can make a request to one of the moderators. EZ
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuoteBBHi Hope, Thanks for your prompt reply and advice! The person I had to speak to just came in. So, I just got off the phone with her. I told her that my doctor told me this wouldn't be good for me. I told her firmly to refund my money. She tried to ask me questions, but I just kept repeating that my doctor said this would be damaging for me. So, she said she hadn't
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No need to shout, (SHOUT), RaCer---x. EZ
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Is it "Momentus?" The Awareness page shows this as an offshoot of Lifespring which is similar to est. There's a "family tree" on this site: Also, take a look at a "fictinal LGAT." It's a good article. EZ
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Hmmmm.... Wonder why "igotit" decided to nuke all his/her posts. EZ
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Quotejacquelinejolie However, I am grateful to Landmark because I realized while watching all of these very damaged people speak, that if I don't become a better parent to my boys, they're going to turn out as messed up as those people. That was an aha moment for me, so I do feel that was worth the time and money spent. The Landmark programs were designed by a man who abused and
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Just log in and back space. Your post should still be there. Then you can post it. EZ
Forum: Destructive Churches

Quotenobojo:shock: I survived the BoJos! Check it out... Nobojo - A look inside the wacky world of Bob Jones University KKK connections...hate speech...political machinations...and, sadly, much more... ...And lest we forget, George W. Bush picked Bob Jones University as a place from which to appeal to a certain voting faction during his 2000 campaign, knowing that many of his potent
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Thanks for writing this, whisperingpink. Having been involved gives you a much better vantage point from which to warn others. How many people, do you think, would avoid this organization if they knew up front what they were getting into? And the practice of "shunning" is something we inherited from archaic tight-knit religious groups or even tribes. The leaders know that the id
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes

A cult or guru has to offer up some goodies, real or imagined, to get people interested. Without some bait on the hook, who would show up? EZ
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The 10 message rule was put in place to protect the people who post here in good faith. You can imagine, I'm sure, the number of phoney posts and attempts at harrassment and intimidation, let alone the number of attempts by cultists to subvert the boards. EZ
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Quotebarabara Please don't take this as an insult, because I assure you that is not my intention, but the name "ezdoesit" is also an AA slogan. Am I wrong to speculate that you are yourself an AA member? If so, we could dialog about personal experiences within the program and exchange interpretations. Understand that I am not trying to invade your privacy and I have complete
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups

QuotebarabaraInterestingly enough, (to me, anyway), I know more people personally who claim to have been healed of their problems with addiction and alcoholism through involvement in recognized cults, (in particular ISKCON and its splinter sects, fundamentalist Christian cults, the Moonies, and EST), than I do people who say they actually recovered in AA. ...Commonly referred to as "rota
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups

QuoteLJMcBAA's own research came up with a 5% effectiveness rate. The reported rate of spontaneous remission is higher than that (between 10-30%). Thus, AA is less effective than nothing. Or you could say that AA adds another 5% (if that is the real number) to the abysmally low 10-30% "spontaneous." Funny, I've know dozens and dozens of alcoholics, both personally an
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QuoteLJMcBOkay...then it's a detrimental organization with cult-like qualities that keeps people from achieving the very goal the enter to achieve. What objective and verifiable evidence do you have to back up this assertion? And how many "people" are you claiming (expressed in a percentage or fraction)? (Assuming "sobriety" is the goal you mean in the above.)
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups

Is there a criminal enterprise that wouldn't like to be able to enforce a "confidentiality agreement" so that they could maintain their nefarious practices with no public scrutiny? EZ
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Tell them you intend to show up at the next "seminar" and make a scene in front of other customers if you do not get your refund. Let them know you think you've been exposed to mind or thought control or brainwashing. They hate that and will probably write you a check quickly just to get rid of you. Don't let them tell you it will be sent. Tell them you want the check befo
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Extra terrestrials? EZ
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families

Quoteblarney36363636rrmoderator, I was not attempting to spread blarney, though amusing use of the word. I simply wish to read a copy of the HBR report myself. I believe that I already probably have the same opinions on the topic as yourself, but I wanted to gather some more information before making my own final judgements on the issue. From what I have read so far through research, it doe
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(Previous two posts deleted. Originals can be found on thread "Husband going to PSI.") EZ
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(previous three posts were repeats on other threads and have been deleted. Originals can be found on thread "Husband going to PSI.") EZ
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Steve and Samuel, You've posted the same messages to five separate threads. Pick one so I can clean them up. Thanks, EZ
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuotejaynekassimDo you know about the Landmark Forum/EST link to Youth at Risk? Jayne Yes. One reference is in Steven Pressman, "Outrageous Betrayal." EZ
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

QuoteSgaliHey All, I just found this site and am glad for it. I am registered for the Forum starting tomorrow but after reading the material on this site, I am not planning to attend. The friend that I was going with is ill with the flu and fortunately unable to go. I will certainly share this info with her and perhaps she will reconsider as well. Thank you all so much for your wi
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