To respond to the title of this thread. The person that started this? Probably a plant. People who find themselves on these sites were damaged by the LGATs. Not LGAT sales people. There is nobody on these sites to sell. So, it's masturbatory to read someone gloating about Landmark, Lifespring, MITT, Forum, etc. as the guy who started this thread. Who are they gloating to? A bunch
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Hi, I appreciated the responses. Perhaps trying to leglislate the LGATs is trampling on one's rights. Perhaps the answer is public information. We should start an organization that engages in public information or is that the purpose of this site? Can this site go further in supporting public information? Is starting legislation to require one group to simply state this tra
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I poster earlier some incomplete thoughts: I apologize for understating the victims. And - Yes - You are right. The LGATs are not crude instruments of thought reform. Neither was The Third Reich. Thankfully, I, we survived. I have been through all three program phases and I am free and healthy. My girlfriend was not so lucky. She is gone. >The LGATs and Third Reich are perfect inst
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I apologize for understating the victims. And - Yes - You are right. The LGATs are not crude instruments of thought reform. Neither was The Third Reich. Thankfully, I, we survived. I have been through all three program phases and I am free and healthy. My girlfriend was not so lucky. She is gone.
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no, if hitler had succeeded he would have started the cults, via lgats. Hitler did succeed to a certain point. 6 million people lost their lives in death camps due to his extermination program. That is quite an evil achievement. He did start a cult. The Third Reich. LGATs are nothing more than capitalistic reformations of Hitler's military, political endeavor. He was for powe
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This guy is playing the forum. He knows better. Forget the word wars. Hopefully he will not lose someone like I have and others have to this social virus called LGAT. If Hitler had succeeded with his society - he would have embraced the LGATs. The Third Reich was a crude form of LGAT. You are an idiot or a plant not to be afraid and keep up the word games of denial.
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your brother has all of the marking of someone who could fall into this big time. Broke. Wanting to believe. Having a PhD in psych does not always prep you for what will happen. They use heavy social psych techniques to brainwash. People who go in broke come out even worse. The get health quick scheme of these groups do not work. They are purely designed to get your money. $2800
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This is a cult. I joined a similar group in L.A. Lost my girlfriend because I spoke out about it/them. They are psychologically dangerous. You will be ostracized if you do not go. They are all about making bank. The "cover" is to give you a better life. It's b.s. The RET techniques they use do give the participant short term benefit. It wears off. But the debi
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I really appreciate Corboy and Elena for their participation. Obviously they are educated about this. The effects are horrific. Elena is right. The ones that go the full program are self selected. My ex was lost to a similar training. She became arrogant. Hypercritical. Rigid. It was painful to experience. She later tried to discredit me through a court action that fell apart. The ch
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Thank you very much for your share. I am a male, single and was deeply involved with a woman who attended the LGAT trainings in Los Angeles called MITT. They ruined this woman's life and mine. I did cry almost every day after the fallout from her participation. They all work the same: recruit for cash. Destroy any relationship that gets in the way. I am very sorry for what you
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Hi Jennie, I read with sadness about your experience. It is true. These LGATs will ruin relationships. My girlfriend and I spent a loving and close Christmas together. We talked about marriage. Spent it with the kids. 10 days later after she volunteered for her ex-boyfriend's retreat weekend - she wanted to be just friends. 20 days after that - we were finished. The
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It does not surprise there's more than the one I experienced. The one in L.A. licensed from Lifespring is MITT. Marina Del Rey. They should be operating in Bagdhad along with the Republican Guard. Just as heinous. Stay away from the LGAT. If you have a friend in it - they're lost. They LGATs will shred your life.
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Hi, Agree. Perhaps we can reach those that have yet to sign up and are open and sophisticated not to buy in immediately. Takes a certain type of person. Those that are hooked tend to want the LGAT "heroin". They are looking for simple answers to life. Like the lotto players, they believe their number REALLY WILL COME UP one day - all they have to do is believe. When
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Hey Corboy, Thanks again for your contribution to these posts. You are helping me understand what I went through. I can only see failure on an organizational level from these LGAT zombies running their own businesses. Cracks develop. It did in my personal relationship, so why would that not be true on a larger scale. Glad I never did the AIDS ride thing. It was big in CA.
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and they are bad. I was enthalled at first. Went two rounds. By the leadership level I suspected this was bogus and they were mind manipulating. It started a division with my ex which pushed our relationship closed. LGATs steal lives. It's senseless to debate since those that take it are under or in the bubble.
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This is amazing stuff. I am so grateful for this thread. Really. It is helping me understand the dynamics of my relationship with my ex who graduated from the LGAT and her attraction to the LGAT and my attraction to her. Very interesting. My therapist who specializes in cult treatment referred to the leader of this LGAT here locally as an injured narcissus personality type. This w
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Is the best way to fight this. They are consenting adults who are being duped. That's why there should be legislation to warn people before taking the course. And tell these people that the end result is a drive to bring in more people. This should be a "truth in lending" type clause. Corboy described it pretty well. They (owners/leaders) are using social psychologi
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and our relationship. they do damage weak people. i would like to propose legislation to curb or stop or regulate these companies. first - let's try California. all we need are enough signatures.
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The owner's name in Los Angeles is Margo Majdik. Frightening. Even in the community training she is despised. Heavy handed. Disgusting attitude. You can see the greed in her eyes. This is only my 28 year old opinion. They are a little company. But from an acorn . . . The doctor I learned from at UCLA was Ann Peplau. And I studied the "prison" experiment at Stanf
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I have never subscribed to any internet thread or discussion group in my life. I had always thought they were for people with nothing to do. I have to tell you that you (collectively) are saving my life with your posts. Really. I have gone through such devastation with the loss of my girlfriend to this LIFESPRING type cult (MITT), reading these posts is helping me survive. Social psychol
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He is a goner. I am sorry. I wanted to clarify Jana's comment. The therapist I saw regarding cults said that there is something about people who are particularly drawn to them that have a need to fill a hole. Something in them is drawn to the simplicity of the cults. That is why I said there is something "wrong" with them. An oversimplification to be sure. thanks
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Corboy. You're a genius. That was an incredible description of something that has deeply affected me personally and still is as we read this. I was a social psychology student at UCLA in the 80's and I wanted to do my graduate work at Stanford. I love the field. I love what you wrote. I changed my direction in school but I still have the love of the science. You brought int
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OUTRAGEOUS BETRAYAL is a book about Werner Erhard. Not your thread. You are right. You can get this stuff from reading and sometimes it can be normal inspirational messages. They LANDMARK/EST/LIFESPRING/MITT/FORUM/LEGACY want something more. They have a hidden agenda and they use mind control techniques to get the "Feel Good" transfer to doing their bidding. Be very beware
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My ex sounded pretty normal right after the training. It works over a period of time. If he does drop the 3rd installment then he is SAVED!!!!!! She slowly started losing it weeks after finishing the 3rd training. It's a nightmare. Really. You will never know such deep sorrow as experiencing someone's mind changing attitudes and becoming someone else. It ruined me for
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My ex wanted to take her kids to training in L.A. when they were old enough. The awful woman that runs this company in L.A. actually set up a tax free foundation for training kids. Who knows if it's bogus? It is sickening to think of fresh young innocent minds exposed to this very rough training. It has to be psychologically damaging. One of my reliefs from that failed relat
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The reason it works to the addictive degree is the experiential aspect. They probably wish they could give the courses over the phone. Less time/more money. Very sad reading OUTRAGEOUS BETRAYAL.
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This thread has over 400 viewings! There is a lot of attention to the fact this is a FORUM related discussion. Probably, this company is reading these posts. The description of the workshops is excellent by the way. Very true to what they really are. Even in Los Angeles.
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Thanks for that information. I checked the WEB site and this probably is the same Kathy Benson. The problem with the issue of labeling "human potential" workshops and trainings as cults is that there is a specific mechanism/business model built on the MLM paradigm that makes them one. (multi-level marketing). The exercises themselves work. To a point. Then they wear off.
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It's difficult to talk the people who participated in these trainings that they did not feel something incredible. The training is designed to elevate you. But the twisted purpose is what escapes the participants. It did me, until I reached the third level. At that point: the mind control screws really get turned. Uniform dress code. Weekly conformity meetings. Daily phone c
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This is the same Kathy Benson! Good find. She is the one who holds the trainings here in Los Angeles for this new company run by a Dutch hairdresser. She is an independent contractor and extremely effective in getting your "heart and mind" to sign up for the advance courses. She even aligns herself with psychology, claiming to be a student at one time. Tells a story of bein
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