Dear Bopperrev. I’m not sure what it is I said in my last posting that has offended you. I was just trying to encourage others who feel that God was the person that let them down, when it was people who done the damage. Whatever type of Christian I am, hot cold, or lukewarm, I didn’t think other Christians could take offence at this. Why are you angry? If you think I was patronis
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Hi Everyone. Just a short note, I hope everyone that has been on this site are doing well. It's a year since i first became aware of the forum and I think we have impacted in many ways. Changing atitudes and behaviour in some takes longer that others, esspecially in churches where truth is held down. But there is movement and sometimes the leaders who don't change a
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Notice to Kirkby Christian Fellowship: This thread will not be allowed to drop out of sight. Whislt you continue to behave in the way you do, and forget the flim-flam you put on your web site. It's how you treat these people here with contempt, that show's what sort of church you really are
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Isn’t it strange, After all the wacky things we hear about kcf, they still surprise me with their off the wall approach to church. What’s your idea of a good holiday? Is it two weeks in the sun by the sea, is it exploring some scenic location not usually visited by the masses, or is it a caravan in Barmouth were you can just relax? Or is your idea of a holiday this: not going with your h
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It's good to see that even though we have not posted a great deal lately, we still have a healthy hit rate. To some people from kcf I think they treat this site like a soap, some juicy Tittle-tattle to gawp at and snigger, but just a load of make - believe, because that's what they are told. When i was in kcf, two things went through my mind often. The first was, why was it so many p
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Hi All. I'd just like to put this little snippet on and see what type of stuff is being fed to the folk of kcf: This is straight from the page: "I felt were important to outline because of the need of HASTE and obedience to the vision. I’ve asked the wheel leaders to identify one thing that each wheel can do to bring forward the vision of the ocean wedding dress At the
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Yo Trina. I understand wha you said tri, sorry if you think i was having a go at you, i certainly was not. What you have said is very sound advice. The Catholic and CofE Baptists etc all have accountabiliy, people who have been abused in these denominations can take their grievences to a higher auhority. The danger with a place like kcf is that there is no accounatbility, th
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Yo Trina. You are a very magnanamous person saying you just want an apology. I don't just want an apology. I want to make sure no one else goes through what we went through. I know of so many people there now, who are so screwed up, I fear for their long-term mental health. this is a real concern i have. I know you all. I want the leadership structure totally dismantle
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As promised here is the letter we sent to c&d doyle: 25/06/2007 Cheryl & Dave. I believe you now think it’s time for mediation between ourselves. If mediation is to take place it must be using an independent unbiased mediation agency. The golden rule in mediation is that it should be conducted by persons who have no prior knowledge of the situation, and if pos
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Hi to all. It's a long time since anyone went on this thread. It seems some folk feel it's had it's day. Nearly three weeks ago, I was made aware through a very reliable source, that the leadership of kcf wanted mediation with ourselves. As you know, I contacted all who have been on this thread, requesting your view on this. Some of you saw no value in medi
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Do you know, I really think it's about time we had some one from the fellowship, who is still in it! To give an educated, mature "opinion" about what is happening there. I'm not interested if you think it's all lies, if you think this don't even bother. Is Jacquie, a liar. Am i a liar, Was is it a lie that my daughter had a nervous breakdown and her health and
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Dear Mike. Opinions are one thing to deal with, we are all entitled to view these, but that's exactly what they are opinions Let me talk about facts, facts are what the people on this thread are dealing with. Facts are small items like, experiences, evidence and proof that we can use to back up everything that has been said. yes it's a fact we all have some good
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Its funny isn't it, the minute someone, who is still in the fellowship (Che) comes on and speaks their mind about what is still happening at kcf. We get Ceticharp on extoling the virtues of the fellowship? You cannot deflect attention away from the fact that folk, still in kcf are biding their time. Che only spoke what others in the fellowship are thinking. For someone not in the fell
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Dear Celtic Harp. Let me answer some of your points you have raised. Reconciliation. We tried for years to get reconciliation with the leadership, we have proof of letters/cards signed statments from good honest respectable people. It was all ignored by the Doyles, A Wealth on insight to the Fellowship, Big deal, I was there 16 years my wife 22 years we were bot
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Dear Che. Thankyou. It is indeed very brave of you to write what you have on this forum. Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct your paths It only takes a small pebbble to start an avalanche. My regards David Anderson (free for Jesus)
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911 said: "I have been horrified by the recent announcement that we are to pray for the destruction of the christians from lifegate church and all the people on this site". Hi To All. Dear KcF. With respect to 911. I would like to give the opportunity to anyone who goes to kcf and is happy there, preferably a leader, to refute the statement above . Can you say there
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Hello Old Girl Just to clarify, This site is not the one they believe i am behind. The site they 'think' i run is This is run by a gentleman like ourselves, that has had family 'damaged' by kcf. For the record I have nothing to do with this website. I do support its aims whole-heartidly. Bruised: hope you'r refreshed and feeling stronger.
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We're back on site! (Thanks Mr Ross) Truth as they say is the great revealer. I am aware that this site is causing a great deal of anger at kcf. Look ifs its all a lie sue me. Because if i find out anything that is liable is being said about myself or my family, I will have my day in court, and yes I am getting feed back from kcf. Its not what you say inside that matters now, its
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Hi Mike. you was in kcf for six years, left two years ago, so if i'm right you was about 11-12 when you joined about 17-18 when you left, and you think you'r qualified to give kcf the thumbs up even though you left! Your mum and sister are still there are they not? But you left it all the same. Let me tell you what cheryl doyle did. she told the fellowship she &q
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Yo Yeti!! Look at page 27!! Hi to all. I was going to mention only yesterday how this forum had now passed the 20,000 hits mark. Now its already over 21,000. Just think of the people who are viewing this site. In the light of all that we have expressed; What do you now want to say to them?....Have your say
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Sorrogate Parents: I heard of this scam after i'd left the fellowship. Correct me if i'm wrong, It was announced in a youth group, not long after we left.Somethig like "if your parents don't belong to the fellowship, or they are not christian parents, we could arrange sorrogate parents for you" I think they tried to anticipate a a certain group of members leaving
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Chandler wrote: Do you think the normal people at KCF feel trapped? Do they think that their is nothing else on the other side if they left? Hi Chandler. I know for sure there are some folk at kcf who feel trapped. The tragedy, and it is a tragedy, is that some have invested so much of their time and effort into the place, that they can't look beyond the borders that
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Dear Littleyellowspider. wow, that's a sweeping statement, you hate all christians! how sad. I can understand how hurt you are, I don't know what happened to you at kcf, but i can guess. What is it you hate about me? why if someone has a different viewpoint to your own do you think its bullying? That's the point isn't it. We
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Re: Control & Manuipulation. Yellowspider, I have to slightly disagree with what you say about 'Teacher/Pupil' type of control, and the types of fall under it, re vunarable/isolated. I would neither class myself as either one of these, yet i was a 'willing' partner to abuse. Its seems incredible now, but the control is subtle at first, us
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To Mods and all. Forgive me, its seems i started this chain of events, re, the redirecting to kcf web site. They did this some time ago to Liverpool writers own website. When the site came on yesterday, what i thought was L,pool writers site, was in fact kcf's! I pressed the wrong link. Yes L'pool writer, i noticed your site doesn't flag up on a search. No
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This is a very amusing true story and it happened not too long ago, about six or seven month ago... I've always fancied one of these radio controlled clocks, you know the one's were a radio signal from an outragously accurate atomic clock, gets beamed to these clocks wherever they may be. Anyway i saw one that would go really nicely with our living room, it was in a nice case like
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So it's back up and running, just a quick message Please check out this also has a good forum site, can we start to put 'our story' out on this site, it also has excellent resources. Re the directing of the other web site that some people think is mine, its not, i don't care if you believe me or not. What i do care about however is freedom of spe
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AJG: What makes you think we are doing nothing else apart from this website? As the Bible states 'you don't let your left hand know what the right hand is doing'. I for one am not going to give prior notice to kcf about what i am doing, why should I? We have waited years for this to come to light, this forum is truely a Godsend to us, preparing for furth
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Brsd.B.C. I can't remember a widow leaving kennelwood ave, because of the way they we're treated. I do know there are good christian people in kennelwood ave, who do not go the fellowship and get the kcf treatment. The KCF Website: I agree entirely with yeti,firefly etc The website is a disgrace and as such because of how they really behave in the 'real world' we have
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Hi to all Kennelwood: Let me expand on what you flagged up about living in kennelwood. The leaders used to live in southdene, C.doyle decided that God had put Southdene under judgement, there was nothing down for it, don't ask me why, other christians at the time we're still living in southdene. Anyway Northwood was now God's annointed country,(that's how small th
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