Building on the very useful points made by Iquitthestrutherscult It is helpful to realise from time to time that Struthers teaching changes without warning every 5 years or so. There has never in 50 years been coherent agreement about anything across the leadership. There has never in 60 years been common understanding of what Struthers believes in among the branches. And there certainly isn&#
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Thank you Falkirk Bairn for your post and bringing attention again to the persistent running sore in Struthers Memorial Church. That is the desperate and enormous chasm between what they claim results from their favourite exorcism ministry; and what actually occurs in peoples lives. And the equally gaping chasm between what their policies claim to do to safeguard and protect the young and the vu
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15 years 2,678 posts And now 1,000,000 views - spectacularly far ahead of any organisation in the world ever discussed on this Destructive Churches website. And still new people regularly coming onto the forum to share their bad experiences. Yet no mention of this ongoing reputational disaster for Struthers Memorial Church (even as a risk) in any annual report ever. Far less a plan
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Danger and confusion indeed and a point well made "Iquit" (if I may call you that) And Al Duff many sympathies and much credit for poking the snakes in the midst of your situation. And as ever the leader will repeat endlessly the one compliment relating to long ago and endlessly ignore the valid criticisms and the present realities resulting in so much ongoing pain for those her c
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Does anyone know if Struthers still claims to be a holiness church? Do they still claim the leadership have attained a higher level of holiness and that is why they are the ones called to be on the platform? Do they still tell people they must look ever inward to search out more hidden sin and act proudly claiming they themselves have done so? The reason I ask is that the present leadership
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Amazing Grace Fully agree with lintar123. Excellent analysis of the recent posts. Forensic and comprehensive. If you are not already a lawyer you certainly should be.
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Reverend Patterson? Are you even on the right forum? And your name ain't "The Lord" It's apparently just BigJaques so watch who you claim to speak for. And before you roar off again On your "Harley" Leaving so much unexplained dirt under your pew Could you wield your mighty chopper and lay down your vengence long enough to answer our questions?
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Hey there BigJacque Winston was indeed a fine prime minister but if you were really with several of us in Wiston and are still in Struthers the degree of mental and spiritual damage you must have suffered by now makes your post make perfect sense. And thank you for showing the world what we have been saying for 15 years is true - that Struthers is full of self righteous blowhards who boast
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Thank you moderator - this is indeed a safe space. Not sure the problem is general anonymity of posters. The problem seems to be when any poster identifies people (however obliquely) and they feel misrepresented. Fair enough. And you are free to share your side. However I would just point out this. If you have spent the last decade defending and funding the work of Struthers and nodd
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Just in case people haven't noticed the forum views count has gone up by about 1500 in just the last 2 days. And as part of that it rocketed through the 800000 overall views milestone. What ever can be happening just now that generates such high readership?
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As Al Duff correctly states this forum has been the most effective means of holding feet to the fire and bringing accountability to the utterly unaccountable. Struthers Memorial Church behaves appallingly and its leadership use twisted scripture to try and avoid being questioned and challenged. They hide, they obfuscate and they seek to cover up their many past and present sins. In doing so th
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Re the reasons for revealing identity or not. There was a reference to this on another website about Struthers some years ago: Those leading Struthers have taken leadership and responsibility for a charity. Therefore they have no choice but to identify themselves publicly in this role and as a result they get significant tax and building rates benefits. Those benefits are the reason they ar
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This was posted in under a new subject line (I think by mistake) so I have copied it in here for completion -------------------------------------------------------------------- Alison Spiers Horror minister Posted by: Esmespiers () Date: March 29, 2025 06:40AM ALISON Spiers_ Horror minister or waa she, a minister? THE Greek what shoukdca true minister be like l really don't know
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Hi Anonymousfornow I understand the point you are making. There is also another view. If someone has had inappropriate control of your life it can result in real psychological fear. That is made worse in this case where the wrath of God has been invoked against them to make their bully feel more important than they are. That may be because people with failed dreams, broken marriages a
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Esmespiers Thank you for posting. EVERY TIME we think we have heard it all something more dire and appalling appears. Everyone responsible for the Spiers appointment as a Struthers leader should be hanging their heads in shame. They should be taking to their own knees in sorrow and repentance for the harms their covering up her actions as a Struthers Church leader have done. And eve
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These 3 posts appeared yesterday in another heading in the Destructive Churches forum posted under the name Esmespiers ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thoughts on Alison Spiers: 1: She was a bully of the lowest order. 2 She used to brag about "Bringing the church down". 3 She used to criticise the Black family. 4: She bullied the kids in
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Hi Lintar Dont know how this happened but could you repost/retype these 2 posts back into.the main discussion? Hopefully this accidentally generated new Topic will drift off down the table and all the Struthers related posts will still be in one place. Couldn't agree more with your well made points!
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Al Duff and ThePetitor Thank you both for that latest exchange and I could not agree more. And would add the amount of church collection money Hugh Black lost in the 1986 multiple shares application scandal has never yet been disclosed to the church attendees whose money was shamefully and illegally mishandled. The rumour was that it was around £1 million. I make no apology for repeating th
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Thank you Friendly Face This bewildering rambling document will no doubt be discussed at length and should be. One thing I notice. It says: There is a legitimate > question to answer if the traditional structure of > elders and deacons can capture the richness of gif > ts and service we are blessed to enjoy. A perfect example of where Struthers sees itself as so far ahe
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Calm down Clive. I shared none of my political opinions. If you look carefully, the phrase that so triggered you is simply a reversal of your 3 stated positions - anti republican, anti Christianity and anti Israel. But at least you failing to notice that gave you the excuse to spew more abuse on some other groups too. Those of us who believe that people are entitled to either the sam
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Re Clive: We remember your long standing online atheist flaming activism which you occasionally dragged onto this forum. Perhaps we should be glad there are peaceful, calm, wise atheists like you out there to heal the world from those on this forum who are still among the religious people you so despise? Are you also involved in Pro-Kamala atheists for Hamas? My guess is that most people
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Quote from The Petitor seems to me that applies to those leaders who have left as much as to those who have stayed. None have come on here to say they got things wrong and they distance themselves from some of the issues in Struthers, so they appear to also still have the head in the sand approach. It is unwise and unscriptural, and will fail. This is 100% correct. Yet reading it, it stru
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I think this is too big an issue in the history of Struthers to pass over quickly. Jesus was asked “By what authority do you do these things?” There is no new testament basis for letting someone else decide who you will marry. The only injunction in relation to that comes from Paul in Timothy 4:1-7. Forbidding to marry (and other similar restrictions) are a sign of false leadership, demonic doctr
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What is this forum for? Certainly to discuss publicly things that were done to us in private and said to us in private and to shine a light on the gibbering, incoherent, disastrously failing nonsense being spoken and taught in Struthers Memorial Church. Certainly to give survivors hope that they are not alone and the abuse they received was in no way unique but was part of the normal Struth
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Talking of people leaving. It appears that Struthers Director and Board Secretary Pauline Anderson has resigned both those roles and is no longer part of the Struthers Church executive which she has been on since long before 2007 (when it became an incorporated charity). Does that also mean she is no longer running the notional "church in London"? No separate confirmation
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anonymousfornow Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > The accusations of SMC on here aren't someone > putting their foot in it or being a little bit > problematic, it's historic sex abuse, it's secret > exorcisms on children, it's manipulation and > control over major life decisions, it's public > humiliation and
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Reply to Anonymousfornow: Andrew Jewell made a public announcement of his departure himself at the end of the most recent Glasgow monthly Saturday night meeting on Sept 14th. Reply to Pheobe2 You wording is very appropriate! “I thought he had been identified by the Powers that Be as an eventual successor to Mrs Gault!” He was indeed. Not only did we all understand that had
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Thank you Fathippo, AmazingGrace and Escapesoon for that insight into the increasingly shrill and increasingly desperate insanity the poor wretches still in Struthers have to endure from the hyper controlling new uber-leader. And thank you Pheobe2 for your as always learned and insightful comments. If only we had, in years gone by, speakers with actual knowledge like you in Struthers many more
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Entirely agree with the insightful and 100% valid condemnation of this incoherent unbiblical nonsense from the pulpit of the Struthers leader. And I would like to examine the phrase: "Don't go about thinking, why did that happen?" As ever In Struthers the pretence is only the devil creates problems but the leaders never do with their mistakes, foolishness, ignorance and i
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Hi Petitor It is a reasonable point to make that professionals (and people with jobs) who are enabling what Struthers are doing and the results they are producing may end up reputationally...compromised. Yet I think you may be dancing around a wee bit much on the head of someone who may prove to be one of the few people left with the capability (should there be a time for change) to actually
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