A former long-time member of The Secret Place recently shared this video with me. It really is good at describing what a 'christian' cult is and what the Bible says about these people. Hope this helps someone out there...
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I would also like to say.... using good music to lure you in and preaching things that sound good to you is no reason to believe in what they believe. If you are put in a position where you have to surrender your phone to listen to only them, then you should get out. Yes they seem to benefit mankind and try to make the world a better place, but only the success is ever publicized. The failure rat
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Dude, I am very sorry to hear about your bad experience at The Secret Place. It is similar to alot of bad experiences that happen there to those who dont convert. The Secret Place is a cult... if you take the time to read Ricks book Cults Inside Out you would see that there are very many kinds of cults and not all of them are religious like Secret Place. That book shows the guidelines that make a
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C. Peter Wagner has passed away without a hint of repentance for the false doctrine he spread around the globe. John Paul Jackson was stricken with cancer and even though his 'prophet ministry' made tons of money to hire the best doctors to put it in remission, he was stricken with cancer twice and passed away without a hint of repentance for the false prophecies that never came to pass
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I was recently informed that the Secret Place have upgraded their website and the head pastor lady has actually included the words deliverance and inner healing in her testimony. I wasnt sure about it so I checked and indeed she has. Its nice to see some honesty and transparency involving that stuff instead of hiding it behind a 12-step program. If your going to do something, its best to just adm
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Its been quite a while since I left The Secret Place Ministry Center. Its also been quite a while since I have been here to look at my post. I have been exploring mulitple churches in my little town and spoken to quite a few people about this New Apostolic Reformation stuff. It is NOT Biblical. Its man-made and very psychological. It should be rejected by any real Christian, but it continues to s
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I recently read the 2nd Holly Pivec book and they both are very well written and very informative on where this originated and what this stuff is all about. Book # 1 - God's Super-Apostles: Encountering the Worldwide Prophets and Apostles Movement. Book # 2 - A New Apostolic Reformation?: A Biblical Response to a Worldwide Movement. Also... Here are some very good references. F
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Driving through this little town, I saw my old friend, Allen N Meyer. He seemed to be doing well considering he has Aspergers Syndrome. He is really a great guy - never did drugs or drank alcohol, dont even think he ever even smoked a cigarette. He was my office assistant at the local food bank before I was let go for calling them out as a cult. I really care for my friend Allen. He has been doin
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I have to say thank you to a few individuals whom I will not mention here that brought to my attention what I didnt see before. The 'Bar Rescue' tactics of Jon Taffer have been applied to playing church. Chuck Pierce has a degree in 'Business' and a Masters Work in 'Cognitive Systems' If you put business and psychology together with a religious overtone - you will ma
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As a Christian, you get saved and you put away all sinful activities from your life and you work each day with The Lord to live a righteous life. You may get baptized as a public display of this. You share the gospel, plant seeds, maybe water them, but you have trust in God to cause any growth. You become a work in progress with others. You will slip up and with Jesus you will pick yourself up an
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I was recently talking with some friends of mine about this whole experience with this group and the nightmares of being demonized and how foolish and stupid it made us feel for falling into this stuff. We are thankful that we got out and as we were talking - I shared my last visit and it was kinda funny. Excuse me if this offends anyone, but the last day I visited The Secret Place Ministry in Sp
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I have studied the history of these movements and I appreciate your replies. Its all about money, attention, control, and demonizing anyone who gets in the way. I recently ran into a guy that works for The Secret Place Ministry Center here in Springtown, Texas and he asked me how things were going. I told him things are going ok and life continues to throw some problems my way. His immediate resp
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It has been almost a year since I left The Secret Place and it has probably been the best year of my life. No more do I feel like something is wrong with me. No more do I feel like I need to turn to them for 'deliverance'. There was a lasting impression for a while after I left, but just staying away from them was the beginning of truly feeling better. I spent hundreds of dollars over t
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Recently I was sent some links to some Bob Larson YouTube videos... and it is the exact same thing that I was exposed to at The Secret Place. If you think you got demons... go take Bob's $10 online demon test. If you fail the test, maybe you should go to Secret Place and get that stuff fixed. Just kidding, all this stuff is a scam built on Peter Wagners so-called 'church growth' ex
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A word of advice before getting involved in deliverance ministry. Do some research on the subject. A simple google search of 'deliverance ministry false teaching' can bring up some good articles. the deception in the church website is also informative. Deliverance is a creation of C. Peter Wagner (who believed any church who didnt listen to him was overwhelmed by a 'religious spiri
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And the underlying teaching on the the denominational churches is almost textbook Jehovahs Witnesses. A very strange hodge-podge mixture indeed. Why would anybody fall for this 'deliverance' stuff?
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The more research I do and the more literature shared with me by others, I start to see pieces of various things coming together. The 'secret knowledge' of the spirit realm that deliverance ministry is based on is very Gnostic. There are hints of Kaballah. Similarities to Catholic Exorcism rites. The 'War of Ages' teaching of the 7th Day Adventists. Extreme Dominionism. Even o
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Some books shared with me lately to understand this 'cultic' takeover style of behavior. God's Super-Apostles: Encountering the Worldwide Prophets and Apostles Movement - by R Douglas Geivett, Holly Pivec Modern Myths about Satan and Spiritual Warfare - by David S Kirkwood Beware of Strange Fire: False Doctrine Exposed in the Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders (Acpe) -
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I have noticed that some of my posts are not available for my friends to find them on Google search, Yahoo etc. Its just another cover-up type thing? The NAR goes to great lengths to shut people up.
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Back in the 90's, I had heard about Peter Wagner trying to infiltrate the churches with a mixture of new-age teaching and false doctrines, so I avoided ever getting involved in reading his material. I just avoided it. But, after participating at The Secret Place for quite some time, I was shown that I had been tricked into accepting Wagner's teachings. Nobody said a thing about where
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I had some problems with this group that I documented here as they happened. As time passed, more and more people came forward to reveal what was behind it all. The Secret Place Ministry Center is run by Roni Stripling (an advocate of Henry Malone) Vision Life Ministries is run by Henry Malone (who functions under the 'apostolic authority' of Chuck Pierce) Glory of Zion Internation
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This thread is closed. I have nothing else to say.
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This is all documented. How my life was re-arraigned by a Recovery/'Deliverance' Ministry. They have money and power. All I have is the truth. This is my testimony of my experience under their teachings. What happens now? Who knows. They have connections in high places. Money plays a big part in it. Money laundering is involved. They have the lack of conscience to destroy anyone who exp
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The pastor of my church passed away last night. He was a great man. Helpful in the community. And caring for each individual. He will be missed greatly. He helped me so much. He would take time to talk to me in such a respectful and understanding way. The conversations we shared will not be forgotten. He knew what I was going through and he helped me break free. I miss him so much. He helped me t
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The destructive nature of dealing with the deceived fanatic. I have experienced it myself. Deliverance Ministries in general are going out on a limb. Straying from the churches and 'thinking' they have some kind of secret knowledge and/or abilities that are exclusive to their specific group. Its really idiotic if you stand back and look at it. Its really like a cult. Separated from the
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Im am integrating a few coping strategies into my life. Communicating with my family and others outside of that group is helping also. I did that stuff for way too long. Being a Christian and being confused by thinking I have anti-christ has troubled my mind at times. This whole experience has actually brought me closer to my parents. I no longer accept that I am cursed because of my dad. I dont
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I had some second thoughts about continuing this thread, but thanks to some encouragement from a close friend, I think it would be best to continue. This is part of my personal testimony. This is actually a part of my daily journaling. I share this here for anyone who might be struggling with 'deliverance' and the many ways it interferes with living a normal life. Even though I feel unc
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I have been doing tons of research and I have learned alot. I dont think I should keep what Ive learned to myself. I should share it. Things to watch out for in a 'deliverance' ministry: The Spirit of Antichrist: If they tell you that you have the spirit of antichrist, watch out. This is used to make you feel like you have something wrong with you and you need them to get rid of i
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If I am going to be open and honest and just 'spill the beans' about this 'group'., then I guess I should just be honest. The head pastor that run my life through the ringer was and maybe still is a homosexual. He was quite forward about his homosexual past. I was asked multiple times about 'compulsive masturbation', which is one of many personal items on their check
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Let the truth be known. I really didnt want to share my personal business on here. But I did. Not out of fear, but for vigilance. And whats set in stone, is set in stone. Let my experience be a warning. Do your homework first.
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