Also, thank you, Saddened, for letting us know about Leo. It's comforting have the great hope of our resurrection in Christ--that by God's grace, we'll see each other again.
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Any word on what the former leaders are up to and who the current ones are and whether or not there has been a return to the Word of God or if they're still chasing goofy prosperity-based doctrines of demons? Anyone?...Anyone?...
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To: Braveheart From: LearningPoint By "your thread" I meant Radiant Life's thread, as opposed to the one I have been posting on: Turning Point's. Did you read my request for help contacting the moderator? Could you post a reply to me on the Turning Point thread? I appreciate any help you can give me, as my private message feature is not functioning (and I've erase
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Hi, Randy. I get that you are hurting, but you need to understand that this forum is not the appropriate place for you to write private correspondence to (or about) your estranged wife. OK? I understand that you are frustrated and upset by the events that have gone on in your personal life as a result of your contact with Turning Point. I get that, and I'm not discounting the reality
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TO: Braveheart FROM: LearningPoint RE: I need you to contact the moderator for me, please. I apologize for interrupting your thread, but my private message feature hasn't been functioning for weeks now. Internet Explorer locks up every time I try to select a recipient for my message. SO, this is my back-door (front door?) attempt to contact Braveheart and ask that you contact the modera
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Rmoderator, There seems to be some kind of a hack into the private messaging feature. I have tried several times to send you a PM, but the "compose message" page freezes when the indicator bar reads that the page is half loaded. Then Internet Explorer shuts down. This has happened in the exact same way a half a dozen times now. Thank you for looking into it.
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Rmoderator, Could you address the previous post? Thanks.
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You can't manipulate truth with a video game controller. Maybe that's the problem...
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From Wikipedia Nelson Searcy Biography Personal life and education Nelson Searcy grew up in North Carolina. He started a computer programming business at age 13 and was selected as one of the nation's Top Ten Young Entrepreneurs while in high school. Searcy met his wife, Kelley, on a blind date while they were in college and the two were married in 1994. They have lived in
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TPR, I was hoping to hear from you, since a few of us responded to your question. Maybe you're on vacation, so I just put this message here to keep our thread visible near the top of the list. Thanks. :)
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So, TPR, are they seeking an associate pastorship somewhere? My thoughts: A person (or people) cannot move on successfully until they realize their fault in matters that lie behind them--and not only realize their fault, but also admit it "out loud" to those concerned and seek to make reparation and restitution wherever possible. You cannot bury your problems alive and expect them
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Memorial Day... Remembering those who've been torn apart by the "wolves." Let's all remember to pray for them.
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Wow, Nooneofanyimportance! What came immediately to my mind when you wrote that is that Mike Villamor could candidate at a church and say the same thing! You're right! If the people making the decisions at TP haven't learned anything from past experience, they'll bite on that line about church growth. Also, a British accent is a novelty and will draw a crowd (at least initially
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Did everyone go home?
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Keep us posted, DOD. The former leadership thinks they're safe because they got out of Dodge. The fact that Jeff strung you along with lies to buy himself time to get out in a strong indicator that he knows, on some level, that leadership was wrong and is in jeopardy of legal trouble. Running away won't make the crime go away, though. (Don't let the statute of limitations run out b
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You're making my point, Ostracized. :-/
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Ostracized, You misunderstand me: You're the one I'm indicating is lacking direction and logic here. I'm not trying to be mean, but many of your posts are completely impossible to follow--I try to catch your logic, but one idea is only partially formed when you jump to another unrealted idea, and so forth. And then you refer to us as "you religious people" and say
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Moderator, We sure could use your help here. Could you get us pointed in the right direction? Please see Ostracizedone's multiple posts over the past few months. People are indicating frustration at their lack of direction and logic, and one person has recently decided to stop participating in the discussion because of what appear to be irrelevant (or barely relevant) rants. But I'm
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Quotejesuschristismydelight Ken and Jean Hale had their own church that I visited upon coming to Washington in 1994. It was a good and solid church. They are solid Christians and are humble people with much Christan fruit and values. Your comment on him being a joke as a pastor is uncalled for and spiteful. With all due respect, JCIMD, how could you possibly know the solidity of the church jus
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PS: I don't believe in being dogmatic about who specifically is in hell and who isn't. (I think it's sick when so-called Christians make such declarations as the one in the article about Ghandi and, more recently, Liz Taylor.) There is one Judge, and He will do His job when it's time, and He will do it with absolute rightness, fairness, and goodness. I have enough on my plate
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QuoteUndeniablyLividSheesh Ostra! I don't know what the hell you are talking about half the time! I'm having a hard time following you too, Ost. That link went to an article that talks about a guy who no longer believes in a literal hell. What was Mike preaching along those lines that made you post it? I wasn't at that Fan the Flame, I guess. And your comment about reading
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Hello, Calvin. Since you are by association, a supporter of what has been defined as a cult by an objective outside source (a parachurch consulting ministry), it would be in your best interest to answer each of TPReject's questions directly, one at a time, in the order they were asked. You need to do this to help everyone here see whether your association should be of grave concern to us
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QuotejesuschristismydelightLearningPoint: I'm no longer enabling the church issues since I have switched churches. My head has not been in the sand. I noticed things way before the departure of M&C. The Lord showed me and this included scripture. You are assuming things about me that are not true. Please do not get combative with me. This whole thing has hurt me terribly. I no
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You call THAT an accounting? That was an attempt to skirt having to give an accounting. Like turning in a wikipedia printout of your term paper topic instead of writing a REAL term paper. That "accounting" should have made everyone run for the doors or at least zip their purses and wallets shut until further investigation. But instead the people at TP go, "Doh-dee-doh...uh-h
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For anyone who is still wondering if they might have been wrong about Mike and Cyndi...or might be wrong about TP in general...who might be thinking about going back...or who, like Ostracizedone, have been told that you can't possibly be able to discern truth because "you've walked so long in the darkness" before you began following Christ, please consider this observation abo
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I remember when Jeff Barnes was reading Joel Osteen's book Your Best Life Now. Jeff thought it was great. Jeff is completely oblivious to what Christians in general--ones who know what the Bible says--see as the problem with teaching from the Osteen and the likes of him. From Buddy's post, Jeff's still up to the same philosophy he learned from Joel O., Mike V., and Tony C.
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For the record: I hope Chris Johnston DOES have what it takes. It would be a very good thing for Turning Point to have a man of strength of integrity, a man who won't bow to popular opinion. Another thing I wonder about these elder candidates: How many of them know what's in the Bible? How many of them have read it all the way through...and more than once? If you're going to le
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OK. I agree that Chris Johnston seems like a good guy, but will he have the guts to stand up for the truth, or does he cow to the power? I wonder, does he call the shots for his family or does Judi? Nice men are wonderful, but they won't do on a church elder board if they're going to turn out to be "yes men." Does anyone know if Chris Johnston has what it takes?
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Just wanted to verify what wherefromhere said. I was in the service in which Dan Crawley boldly announced his having been busted for trying to pick up a prostitute. He held up some legal documentation--which I don't remember whether it was that he'd "done his time" or been absolved or what--and was declaring his freedom. Meanwhile, his poor wife was sitting there looki
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Saddened, It seems that, perhaps, church leaders in Marysville feel that it is "unChristian" to investigate too vigorously anything that claims to be Christian. So, if the sheep's clothing the wolf has donned looks passable at a "safe" distance, the wolf is allowed to mingle with--even lead--the sheep. We wouldn't want to seem judgmental toward that poor wolf tryi
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