SpeakethTruth thanks for sharing your story One of the observations I've made reconnecting to people that were once apart of Radiant life is some have become so hurt that they have equated that experience to God and have turned away from the faith. Others have asked hard questions a gone back to the word of God to see what does the Bible say about this issue or that subject, taking some
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Watch out Mexico! Tony will come across like the most likeable sincere person on earth and at the same time he is picking your pocket and buddying up with your teenage daughters as he is trying to sell you a ponzi scheme. I wonder if Tony has teamed up with David Hogan another nut case false teacher in Mexico check out him out at
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What happened these false teachers?? Where did they land? Who are they following? Are they still following false teachers like Mike Bickle with IHOP or Bill Johnson Todd Bentley and Rick Joyner? part of the NAR New Apostolic Reformation? We can only hope that they would have repented of their false teachings and given back all the money they have stolen from church members
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What happened these false teachers?? Where did they land? Who are they following? Are they still following false teachers like Mike Bickle with IHOP or Bill Johnson Todd Bentley and Rick Joyner? part of the NAR New Apostolic Reformation? We can only hope that they would have repented of their false teachings and given back all the money they have stolen from church members
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People attending Bethel Church need to STOP and evaluate the theology being taught by Bill Johnson They need to look very closely at the simplistic message the apostles preached being the presentation of God's law, Repentance of sins and Faith in Jesus for salvation. Now compare what the apostles taught to what is coming of out of Bethel with Bill Johnson including the shallow lyrics and h
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Here is an open letter from a former member of Bethel church "In August 2008 I moved to Redding, California to attend Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry (BSSM). I graduated in May 2009... Almost right away I began to question the bizarre behavior that is so normal there. "At Bethel, there are many sayings that are tossed around daily... "God only has nice things to say,&
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It appears someone posted to the wrong blog oh well. Here is s link to 20+ questions that will help you find a good church
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The Wolf has been seen luring around Elk Grove Who are the people still feeding this wolf? You people are fools for enabling this spiritual pedophile!
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Very interesting I recently watched a video with Bill Johnson teaching a group of people In the video He humanized Jesus as being a man operating in a different realm calming the sea he elevated man or believers as being able to access this same realm that Jesus was operating in (in other words you can become more like God that Jesus) Johnson did everything to humanize his out look of how God
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The warnings for this church group should raise RED FLAGS for anyone involved with this movement! The theology promoted by Bill Johnson (senior pastor at Bethel) along with sycophants teachers like Kris Vallotton is what should be raising RED FLAGS for Members and anyone looking at this group! What these guys teach is a far cry from Orthodox Christianity! This church movement falls mor
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I'm Perry sure that syndrome is defined by family councillor's as being "a fear of man" the drive to be accepted by authority figures, to be perceived by others as being, one who is the perfect example for others. It's a works performance bases of salvation, contrary to the Gospel of Jesus, it is a heavy yoke to put on people, its deception in the first degree. its no
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Driven to perform; this is part of the theology behind what Tony promotes in his word faith prosperity message.
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Reader, you share some sad news as I keep hopping and praying the guy who is all huggy would see the light, that he would realise he is being played like a fiddle. I would hope that he would actually read the bible in context. To be like the Berean's. Unrolled then Tony will continue to manipulate this guy for money and free labor. It is really sad to learn that Tony is still up to h
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Matthew 7 is so miss understood in many circles because most people stop read after verse 2, they never read the whole chapter! To some this verse has become the 11th commandment, causing the church to slipp into a sea of compromise and apathy. For many pagans surprisingly they are the ones who will quickly say you have no right to judge me! If you read the whole chapter you will learn that Jes
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QuotejesuschristismydelightJust reading the current blogs. Is Jeff Hastings the Pastor at TPC now? Is he teaching the Faith Movement also? This what I feel that the Lord has placed on my heart concerning The Faith Movement. They have made a sham of Me (the Lord) in The Faith Movement. I am not to be treated like a servant to them. They are to be a servant unto Me. This makes a mockery of wh
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QuotebjwQuoteBraveHeart I have read your objection to what you called Lordship salvation maybe you could enlighten us me to what is your Soteriology the doctrines of salvation. Just to prove that I did say what my soteriology (doctrine of salvation) is in an earlier post in this thread, here is what I said in September 2010 on page 6 of this thread, underline added for emphasis: Quotebjw Now,
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The above posting was put into an email and sent to pastor Jeff Hastings that was August 13th 10 days latter i have not heard anything back from Jeff PEOPLE RUN FROM THIS CHURCH! THEY ARE SIMPLY TEACHING PROSPERITY and WORD FAITH MAMBO-JUMBO.
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Reading some of the rants they are such Straw-man arguments. It appears that you are mad a at man and tearing down and attacking a man, not so much his teachings or theology. What do believe is wrong about what Johnny Mac preaches or wrights about, in light of the bible? I have read your objection to what you called Lordship salvation maybe you could enlighten us me to what is your S
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I'm going to keep this post in its context inserting my observation in blue letters QuotebuddyQuotegunslinger34oka I think its time I shed some light on this subject of turning point church, from my point of view. I am sure though, I will not be popular with some people over this but oh well, then again some may not even read this. Turning point church draws alot of people who come from b
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Buddy Thanks for warning people about Dr. Increase I would encourage everyone to look at what his guy preaches and test it according to the BIBLE. Do not settle for verses taken out of context picking a promise from the old testament that was originally given to a specific people at a specific time, that would be inferring a meaning into the passage. I would also be very concerned with Jeff Ha
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QuotetalaposaI don't go to that church often but I have been there and have knowledge of the people involved. I was there during the split up which came about when one of the members lost significant money in real estate during the recent real estate drop. He took the pastor (Tony Cunningham ) to court. This made news in the Sacramento Area which reported on it several times. The case was
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QuoteMikiWhat Tony is doing.... or not doing is very much like the weasel he is.... his tail between his legs. I remember how he told me he couldn't speak to me cuz i wasnt a pastor or elder of the church. He has much to answer to God! The interesting thing about Tony and his sycophants is they think they are above all and perfect. Matthew 18:6 but whoever causes one of these little on
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Here is something from you Uncles alleged blog (funny he does not allow any opposing comments) QuoteSomething that made me go Hmmm... My wife and I were driving home today. On our route and within the community in which we live is a family that used to attend the church we currently attend. The family has been quite vocal about concerns they have with the church, and have been known to say
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QuotewantingtruthSome major repentance would have been nice. But that would have proved that they in some fashion still wanted to honor God more than themselves. Instead we got blame shifting "I was too slow to correct others who did wrong" The only thing that you did was prove that you were in in for yourselves. Actually, you did us all a big favor by giving us a glimps
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nooneofanyimportence You make a very good point; there is defiantly the element of embarrassment dealing with the aftermath of Turning Point & Radiant Life. The fact that we were all fooled at one point in time & deceived by the slickness of the wolves those who are very gifted at tickling peoples ears. However we all can also learn much from this experience; the bible exhorts us al
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nooneofanyimportence You make a very good point; there is defiantly the element of embarrassment dealing with the aftermath of Radiant Life and Turning Point. The fact that we were all fooled at one point in time & deceived by the slickness of the wolves those who are very gifted at tickling people ears. However we all can also learn much from this experience; the bible exhorts us all to
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I understand the attitude that some people have who were once a part of Radiant Life they will say "We know, now, Move On!" or "I don't want to talk about it" I’m not trying to pick on anyone specifically it is simply an observation here in Elk Grove when I bump into somebody at the grocery store who was part of Radiant Life. I am simply trying to challenge people
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Here are lyrics that apply to all the people who are willing to turn a Blind Eye and ignore the deep DEEP levels of spiritual abuse, coercion and manipulation by your uncle Greg. Enabling people like TOny Cunningham who will say in their own self righteous manor "Oh, I can not judge" Then quote Matthew 7:1 Old lady in the street ain't here no more, got robbed last week at her
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Here are lyrics that apply to all the people who are willing to turn a Blind Eye and ignore the deep levels of spiritual abuse, coercion and manipulation. Enabling people who will say in their own self righteous manor "Oh, I can not judge" Then quote Matthew 7:1 Old lady in the street ain't here no more, got robbed last week at her own front door, (at her own church) no on
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QuoteDaughter of DorcasWow! The Villamors really must have thought that their congregation was a bunch of mushrooms! The congregation was to be kept in the dark and fed a bunch of bull %^$@ while they happily ripped us all off. D of D Criminal charges should be filed! Fraud & Embezzlement what are some other charges?
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