QuoterichardmgreenQuoterrmoderatorPlease don't start preaching here. McArthur is a fundamentalist Christian and has been controversial. According to his book. Twelve Ordinary MenJesus' not picking any of the Pharisees, Sadducees or scribes to be his apostles was a "condemntation of the Jewish establishment of his day." Richard, no offense, but I completely fail to see you
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QuotemscougarI am still in the process of recovering and understanding my involvement in this organization. Has anyone read any good books about leaving this type of organization and rediscovering their faith in a more balanced and healthy way? I would be interested in reading this to understand and relate to other people with this experience. Ditto for me, although I have never been affiliat
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phoenixgirl, Wow, what a write up, and this is your inaugural post!. I must confess to not knowing much about it, although I think I have heard of it, and met people who were "saved" through YL. Is this organization widely accepted in the mainstream Evangelical community? Seeing the demographic that it seeks, it sounds mainstream. Thank you for the post.
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Digged up some information about the Ken Nally suicide case. The most disturbing part: ROLLIN (To Rev. MacAuthur): Do you think the counseling he received was appropriate and good? Rev. MACARTHUR: Yes, I think it was exactly the kind of counseling we always do. We've done it with thousands upon thousands of people. ROLLIN (To Rev. MacAuthur): But what if a person is mentally ill?
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Quoteshakti So would I. I grew up around this "church" and am all too familiar with it. I remember at an early age Sunday school teachers trying to teach an almost paramilitary right-wing agenda that scared the shit out of me, to the point I just stopped going, regardless of any parental consequence. It has the distinction of being one of the only Christian churches to get sued for the
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foreverachildofgod, All I can tell you is that he sounds fine on the radio, and his preaching is "solid" for the most part. I have stories to tell from having attended his church for a few years, and known people who did and left in confusion. I just wanted to see if there are others on this forum before telling my story.
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My question in the original posting had to do with why Campus Crusade and Promise Keepers were listed while John MacArthur's church wasn't even thought his CULTISH traits exceed those of the listed organizations. One can have cult-like traits without being a full blown cult. You stated: "No mention of McArthur being a prophet, no mention of his having a special spiritual chann
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I never said MacArthur's church was a cult. You are putting words in my mouth. What he does not seem to realize is that Christianity is a lot bigger than his little empire in the Los Angeles suburb. As to their doctrinal statements, you may want to note their mysogenic fixation with the role of women. They'd see the movie The Stepford Wives and nod in agreement with how "i
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John McArthur may be "respected" in mainstream Christian circles, but he does not respect them. He does not trust anything outside his empire which is the reason why he founded his own seminary back in 1986. He felt that most of the fundamentalist seminaries such as Dallas and Talbot Seminaries were straying too far from doctrinal purity and started his own, leading many faculty mem
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I looked through the website and was surprised to find Calvary Chapel, Campus Crusade for Christ, and Promise Keepers listed, but not John MacArthur and Grace Community Church listed. Not to say that CC, CCC and PK shouldn't be, but MacArthur is light years ahead of them in terms of abuse and cultish characteristics. In fact, he routinely criticizes them for their lack of commitment to
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