Thanks for your post, kc. At least it is well thought out and heartfelt. Nobody can ask more, and I also note that you both incorporate a generous dose of humor, and do not slime Bob with meaningless, superficial tripe. Your objections are noted, and some of them carry some weight, but please understand that you heard a few tapes, and went to a few classes, and this is partially the basis f
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Of interest to anyone happening by here; You will read copious denunciations of Bob Thieme from just a few posters. I advise you to consider the source, and more importantly, the nefarious motives of these individuals. Hatred and malice are motives that no practicing Christian should indulge, and there is no other reason for these slanders. For every one of these naysayers there are litera
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LOL! You can cite Biblical and extra-Biblical references all you like, dude, and they have absolutley no effect on me. I could care less. Unlike yourself, wretched soul that you are, I don't make a career out of discussing Bob Thieme. The only reason I came here was that you visited one of my Christian websites recently, and I clicked on your path. I discovered that you also came
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Mile2, I did respond about the C.G. Hunt book, but it apparently did not get posted. I said this is, indeed, a serious charge, but before I dump the beliefs I've held for 37 years I would like more information about the author. What is his full name? I did some cursory investigating, and I can only find this one book to his credit. Has he written other biographies? I would like to r
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RO7... I've been studying under Bob Thieme for 37 years, and he has taught me all I know about the Christian life, and I'm profoundly thankful for it. My life is blessed, and I have a wonderful relationship with God, not because I worship Bob Thieme, but because I worship Him. I do, however, attribute my knowledge of God, and my ability to manage my problems, in part to the man
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Roger that Mr. Moderator.
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Mile2, I never heard Bob teach that verse, and like I said, I don't care what it means. I don't care if Bobby Thieme is qualified or not. I don't care how many wives he's had. I don't care if he has a harem. He isn't my pastor, and he never will be, and who or what he is is of no importance to me. Unlike yourself, I'm not on a mission to discredit him, o
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Absolutely. Great stuff, humor.
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Satanic Church of Jesus? What a hoot! Judas Escariot, resurrected, must be the pastor, eh?
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Hi Rhonda, I have a friend whose son abandonned their church and started taking drugs, then got a young lady preganant. His mother approached me for advice, and I told her to keep her misgivings to herself, and express her concern for him in a benign way, but always with an open show of affection. She took my advice, and now her kid is on track, has accepted the responsibilty for his ch
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Speaking of which, here's a good joke for y'all... This guy is having a drink when a fellow walks in, saunters up to the bar, and gives the high sign to the barkeep. "The usual", He says. The bartender mixes an exotic concoction and sits it on the bar before him. The guy slugs it down in, walks to the window, throws it open, and leaps out (the bar is the penthouse
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kcjones; "However all I was doing was showing the FALLACY of Bob's Logic, and I don't believe in that sin-unto-death crap, and you shouldn't either." Aren't you the advocate of reading your Bible kc? "If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a si
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Amen to that, brother. In my humble opinion, humor is an underrated antidote for many adverse conditions.
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Incredible! It never ceases to amaze me how blind naked hatred is! I doubt that you, Mr. Jones, like others who are consumed with loathing, see yourslef as others do, a person who stoops to the most desperate latitude, indulging in charactar assassination and contmptuous accusations against anyone who dares challenge you. And now you derive comfort from the fact that Bob Thieme has a terri
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Incidentally, I merely cite the previous samples of Thieme's teaching as a demonstration that he is not teaching other worldly nonsense and doomsday blather. His messages may be somewhat unorthodox by some standards, but they are hardly the drivel that charactarize a cult.
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Mr. Jones (or Ms.), You employ the debater's ploy of misdirection very poorly, if I may be so bold. Where did I state that Bob Thieme is the equal of the men I cited in my post? Like most instransigent individuals, you are so intent upon your desire to injure him that you completely miss the point, and further, you take my comments out of context and lend you own distorted interpretat
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Preaching? If expressing my understanding of the subject at hand is preaching, then accept my profound apologies, Jack. I hate it when the word police are nipping at my six! Bye the bye, old boy, on the topic of subject matter, I fail to see what a humorous depiction of hell has to do with cults(?), not that I take offense. I would suggest, my fine feathered friend, that you harangue me fo
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I quite understand your question, Mile2, and I repeat, I will not stand in judgement of any member of the clergy, whether I think they are legitimate or not. If you wish to do so that is your choice.
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Really? And what, exactly, comprises "preaching"? If offering my understanding of the issue at hand is "preaching", then I beg your forgiveness, sir. Incidentally, the humor was not lost on me, but I was wondering what this subject matter has to do with cult activity, which is allegedly the thrust of this site? If you are so inflexible as to subject matter that you chas
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Thieme has a genius I.Q., for starters, and perpared for the ministry with 12 years of college and seminary. He graduated Magna Cum Laude. It is therefore no surprise that the man thinks "around corners", diametrically. Let me explain; He has the unique ability to categorize and assign terminology to a body of knowledge in such a way that stimulates thought in the hearer. This te
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Greetings Claypot, You raise an issue that certainly bears serious consideration, and one I have pondered myself. I suppose that is the inevitable consequence of having such a prolific system of communication. Like all other matters in this veil of tears, there is always a dark side that will be exploited by those whose motives are nefarious and counterproductive. May I say that it is a
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I, personally, do not feel that Bobby Thieme is a pastor who can enhance my spiritual growth, Mile2. I will not comment on why, both out of respect for his father, and for the reason that God reserves the matter of judging the men (and women) in his service to himself. There are men who I feel are outright blasphemers, money hungry and power mad, but it is a slippery slope, indeed, to ridicul
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It is ludicrous to name R.B. Thieme, and his ministry, as a cult. There is no single incident in the history of Berachah Church which can be charactarized as cultish, and I have been studying under this man for 35 years. It is the nature of such cult leaders as David Koresh and Jim Jones, not to mention the Moonies, Manson, and the leader of the Heaven's Gate cult that comitted mass
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If I may add some comments to this discussion; First of all, Hell is not in time, else it would have a terminus. Secondly, Hell is not a "place", as such. It is a state of existence charactarized by the absence of God, and therefore the antithesis of His glory and blessed presence. We must understand that God is absolute, and He exists in the eternal state, which is also abs
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If you will kindly indulge me, Mr. Truthtesty...I would like to shed some light on the topic of "right man/right woman". Assuming that you agree that The Garden, and Adam and Eve, are a literal and accurate account of creation, then you will likely also concur that God created a companion for the first man, and she was perfectly suited to him in every nuance, soul and body. G
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I am astounded to discover a website on which members spend their time trying to undermine a bible teacher with the stature of Bob Thieme. What strikes me as incongrous is that mental processes can exist which are in such total conflict as yours and mine. I began studying the bible in Berachah Church in 1972, and I continue to listen to Thieme on tape to this day, yet I have never been
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