Thank you for sharing, Bruised, you bring something irreplaceable to this place by being and sharing yourself, thank you. I'm sorry to hear of your loss. Maybe it is the changing of the season, or maybe there is something in the air, but it is a great encouragement to know that a season isn't forever. Although it was winter, it feels like we are now moving to spring and a time of g
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Interesting point, brainout. You made me think a lot. You're right, God doesn't say what kind of political system we should have, if any. I realise this is not the place for discussing politics, but just reading thru the ten signs of a cult, do you think our government(s) display any of these signs...?! What is the tipping point, when does a church, or belief system, or group of
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Onlyme, I can only agree with your comments. I can remember two occasions clearly when, in a sunday service, two separate people have sworn out loud. The looks on peoples faces and the moving away, the atmosphere of shock and horror, how can that be a safe place for the average Joe like you and me? Ekklesiana, do you think the 'powerful influence upon members to conform' is limit
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Hi all, AJG, I wonder what your purpose is in getting involved? You say you're not a 'cult buster', you have no connection with us or with KCF; whats in it for you, and how do you see yourself being a help here? Did someone ask you to represent us? I have personally found your comments offensive, particularly as you don't know any of us or our situation, and your aggress
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Thank you for sharing that, BBC. I appreciate that some of the things you have shared are deep heart issues, and must be very painful. It must be a very heavy weight to feel that someone hates you so much as to want to destroy you. It feels like this is 'our time', that the seasons have come around and that things are changing. Maybe it's spring in the air, and maybe it's
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I'm sorry BBC, I don't remember that (we'll just talk amongst ourselves over here...) Do you think that is true, that you can never be free whilst Cheryl has a grudge?
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I'm not entirely sure I've understood all that you are saying. Are you comparing a leader forcing people to do things with 'the masses' needing to idolise and follow someone, or am I way off beam? You say that mature people don't need idols; do you think it's a need for an idol, or a need for leadership? My own personaly belief is that we were created by God so we
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Do you think we'll always be like that? Do you think it'll get better over time, perhaps? Or is there something we can do to help ourselves?
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Hi there, BBC; is your site a ‘slag KCF off’ website?! (I’m kidding!) Firefly; I think you have said a lot of very important things in your last couple of posts. I can’t speak for everyone, but I struggle to forgive. It is such an important thing to wrestle with, and I think some days I win and some days I don’t. Someone once painted me a very graphic description of unforgiveness; saying th
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Hi there, Interesting post, enjoyed your comments a lot thank you for sharing. I heard a great sermon on sunday about Galatians 3. It's a bit of a complicated passage for me (bein a bit of a thickie) but the guy speaking was really good. He talked about the new covenant, and how we do not receive the spirit by obeying the law, but by faith and believing. Is a debate that could probably
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Hiya Oliver, I remember the pyramid room fairly well, with the mummy! It seemed a long walk to get there every Sunday night, with most of the fellowship driving past with empty cars. (I wonder at the environmental cost of not car sharing?!?) I don’t remember the incident you mentioned, what do you think was happening? If I remember rightly, there seemed to be a lot made of sexual sin, it was
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Thank you for the clarification Bruised. And thank you for sharing some of your deepest fears so openly. Is good to hear from you. When any of us have left the church, it has almost been like ending a relationship. The hole it leaves inside, the commitments that have ended, the hope dashed. And sometimes it can be so sudden, almost like a death in the family. Is that identifying with anythi
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Bruisednotbroken; I wonder if I could just clarify, when you say you feel a wobble inside, what are you trying to say? At first I thought you meant like an emotional wobble, like feelings rising, perhaps upset lingering that you thought wasn’t there any more, but after thinking about it I wondered if you meant more of a wobble like when you don’t know whether something you feel is right? Perhap
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I look around this site, and I see a lot of very hurt people. We must be careful that our own pain doesn’t become justification for lashing out at others who may be worse off than we are. I’m sorry that you see that the whole of your white paper is black, I truly am. I perhaps didn’t understand and made, as you say, a glib statement. It sounds like quite a dark place to be, surrounded by
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Hi all, I’m sorry to hear some of the very difficult testimonies of peoples lives here. I am so glad those that have spoken have felt this a safe place to do so. What you have shared is most valuable, thank you for trusting us with that. I’m sorry (Liverpool Writer) I maybe didn’t make myself clear in my message? I wasn’t actually characterizing the site at all; I was saying that we have f
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