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16 years ago
bruisednotbroken
I spent a few years in a fellowship that has been discussed here on this forum....and left there with a resultant confusion, depression and breakdown. I have made good inroads in my recovery, thankfully. You mentioned giving your son information about cults. This same approach was used towards the fellowship I belonged to and while it planted seeds of doubt (actually, the "seeds of doub
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16 years ago
bruisednotbroken
I have a new laptop and as my previous laptop had crashed I had lost track of web addresses. This evening I've relocated this forum and wanted to check in and get updated. I've been checking many pm's which had been sent to me over the months as well, reading most of them for the first time, due to my absence. There were many pm's full of love and concern for me...thank y
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16 years ago
bruisednotbroken
I am distressed to come onto the forum today and find Celticharp avoiding the issues/questions which have been asked. I have stated elsewhere on this thread that I am aware people have been helped by the ministry of KCF...I don't think anyone who has posted here would deny that to be true. BUT, there is a gathering amount of evidence which paints a darker picture of KCF and that is needi
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16 years ago
bruisednotbroken
Some of the folk who have posted on this site may have already worked out who I am...my name is Jacquie. I have been operating out of a position of fear and severe depression since leaving KCF....and I feel I must disclose my identity so that the fear I have towards Kirkby (the place!), KCF and it's members and leaders can be broken. This decision to disclose my identity is difficult for m
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16 years ago
bruisednotbroken
Che, it is a very positive action on your part to come here and post, and at personal emotional cost to you, if nothing else. Thank you for your prayers (and to the others with whom you are gathering re KCF/Cheryl). This is a positive action for two reasons, at least....it is a great encouragement to myself and I expect to others on this forum to know KCF members are aware, concerned and pray
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16 years ago
bruisednotbroken
In reply to the "locked" thread re KCF....I was not involved in the fellowship during the time of ministry of Bill Turner so I am unable to comment about the fellowship at that time. It is many years since Bill Turner played an active role in KCF so I think, without deliberating offending you, that your information is quite out of date. I can also say that it is very offensive and u
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16 years ago
bruisednotbroken
Trina, the pain of losing friends from the fellowship comes over very clearly in your post. I cannot imagine what it must be like to live in the same neighbourhood as those you once had good friendships with and find them taking extreme measures to avoid you. I am sad for the way you have been treated. I belonged to a pentecostal fellowship and left that church to go to KCF. I had a lot of
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16 years ago
bruisednotbroken
David...thank you for your good wishes. I have recently returned from my sister's memorial service and went to our childhood home to spread her ashes, as she requested. It was a very "good" experience to share with my daughter and her young family and with my niece. I hope and pray we are remaining strong and resolved to see KCF called to account and exposed for their harmful
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16 years ago
bruisednotbroken
Welcome "Old Girl"....I am pleased to read your family has come through their experiences at KCF intact. Good to see another new poster who has first-hand knowledge of the misguided teachings and the destructive experiences at KCF. Hope to hear more from you too.
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17 years ago
bruisednotbroken
It's good to see the site back up again. Also, thank you for your encouraging comments regarding my going home for my sister's memorial service. I don't remember sharing previously the circumstances which caused me to eventually leave KCF. As many of the KCF members are reported to be reading this site I thought I would enlighten them to what actually did happen. On what wa
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17 years ago
bruisednotbroken
BBC....do you know that your last comment about learning to laugh again was a thought that came to me only yesterday...and it was one of those kind of thoughts that kind of jolts you awake! I was driving the car and the thought of laughter came to me and then I started to cry...because laughter seems to be so distant from me now! It almost seems like I've forgotten how to have a good lau
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17 years ago
bruisednotbroken
Yettiegoosmaster....there doesn't appear to be a website for KCF...at least not a viewable, public one via a google search. Do tell...what have you uncovered regarding the fellowship being told lies and believing them? You have me intrigued. I do wonder why anyone who had left KCF would return and call themselves a "prodigal"....that must be the height of error. I hope they w
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17 years ago
bruisednotbroken
Crafty bunch aren't they? :evil: Keep up the pressure!
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17 years ago
bruisednotbroken
David in the Light....correct me if I'm wrong...but I have a vague memory of a widowed lady who was/had been a member of KCF moving out of Kennelwood because life was made so uncomfortable for her (not one of the "in" group as I remember). At the time I really didn't delve into the circumstances but you've just triggered my memory of this situation. I did have a coupl
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17 years ago
bruisednotbroken
Welcome to the forums Kennelwood. I'm fairly sure I am not known to you as I do not live in Kirkby but did attend KCF until I ran for my life! Great to see someone from the community of Kirkby on these forums and for you to be able to read first-hand accounts of what was experienced by those who were a part of KCF. Yep, stick around....nice to see 'ya.
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17 years ago
bruisednotbroken
I felt uneasy about criticisms/comments giving names and citing behaviour of current members of KCF...so I chose to remain silent about it on here. But it has now been mentioned and it seems we are all in agreement about keeping personal comments about individuals (other than about Cheryl & Dave) out of the forum. I am relieved about this as I do not think it is pertinent to what we are
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17 years ago
bruisednotbroken
Thanks, John....sorry, I forgot about the 10 posting rule regarding pm's.
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17 years ago
bruisednotbroken
I wonder if anyone else is affected by delving into this spiritual abuse stuff as much as I seem to be. I think I have mentioned previously on here that I had a breakdown four years ago following my involvement in KCF...and as a result have recurring depression. I was recovering pretty well and was successfully decreasing my medication with the hope I would be off them completely by late spring
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17 years ago
bruisednotbroken
I too, join with others who are so very grateful for the sharing of our experiences....difficult to post details but as we share with one another we feel less "alone" and so my thanks to you for beginning this recovery ministry....long may it continue to grow. Blessings!
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17 years ago
bruisednotbroken
I do remember the visit of the team from the USA....I did wonder if they left the fellowship with a true picture of how crazy the teachings were! At the time of their visit I remember it was in the midst of teachings about the knitted relationships and also the "wedding gown" scenario (from one of Cheryl's dreams). There were a lot of quizzical looks and some odd remarks from t
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17 years ago
bruisednotbroken
It's great to see the site back up again! I've missed the communication we had going with one another. I was a part of the "knitted relationship" in KCF. What began as a natural friendship because a particular family were welcoming towards me, in the end, became the main reason for my leaving KCF. I've been fortunate in my life to have a few close "girlfriends&
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17 years ago
bruisednotbroken
I am very relieved that Rev has understood the pain and abuse we've been sharing here on this forum and recognizes the emotional and spiritual harm that has come to us. It means so much to me to know that a minister (for I assume that is your vocation with the username you have chosen) can come to our defense and state so clearly the root of the problems with KCF. I have already than
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17 years ago
bruisednotbroken
Thanks for the pm's BBC and David....yes, your prayers are appreciated. I am sad that my recent post seems to play into the hands of the condemners in KCF and I hope if anyone from the fellowship who is currently a member does read my post they will realize it's not my leaving the fellowship that has caused my current state of belief...it is the corrupt lies and brainwashing of trusted
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17 years ago
bruisednotbroken
I disappeared today and went out to the shops with my daughter and two of my grandkids...and found my mind wandering towards all of these situations being written about. There seems to be no escape from it all. While today wasn't such an emotional day for me...it still preoccuped my mind! How do you all cope with this? Do you find you keep re-thinking and re-living your personal experien
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17 years ago
bruisednotbroken
Firefly, I was really upset to read how you and other small children were instructed and treated. One of the "brags" about the fellowship was how wonderful the morning Sunday School was. I never visited it so had no first hand knowledge but am certainly relieved I had nothing to do with that side of KCF! And what a relief also to know you are a survivor after all the stuff you'v
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17 years ago
bruisednotbroken
Were any of you a part of the fellowship when there was a campaign against people who were distributing a letter regarding KCF being a cult? It has just come to my memory, the detective work that was going on amongst the fellowship...real cloak and dagger stuff....trying to trace who was responsible for the letter. Someone going around in a car in the dark of night, posting it through letterbox
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17 years ago
bruisednotbroken
With all the sexual stuff so many of you have been confronted with at Kirkby it makes me feel quite humble as for my part in the fellowship, I was controlled totally through brainwashing and the knitted relationship thing. I never heard much, if any, talk about sexual behaviour or mis-behaviour. I am so sad, and even angry too, that you were treated in such an inhumane way! I did wonder whil
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17 years ago
bruisednotbroken
How wonderful! I am so happy that you are on the road to healing...with you all the way, honey. I'll reply to that pm now if I'm permitted....I think this will qualify me for post number 10! Yeah! Blessings.
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17 years ago
bruisednotbroken
Broken....how are you? I'm praying your contact with David in the Light brings you a way to dry those tears. (((((broken))))) ~~~~I'm working towards post no. 10!!~~~~
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17 years ago
bruisednotbroken
Aww hun.....I received your private message but can't reply as I haven't posted 10 replies yet! I am not certain that I do know you tbh....it is possible but until I can draw back this black curtain of my mind I am finding it very difficult to recall names and faces from the fellowship. I spent a lot of time at a particular residence across the road from the leaders' residenc
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