By the way, you know the real reason The Royal Way sect is attacking this thread? If a person searches Google for two words... royal way ...then this thread comes up #5 on the list of all the pages on earth! If they search... royal way michael ...it comes up #1. This is why sects and destructive groups hate the internet, as information flows too easily, and their power come
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Its interesting to analyze when a sect member tries to do an attack on someone who has the "nerve" to think critically about their sect, and not worship them mindlessly. Its an interesting object lesson. They feel they have the skills to play mind games with people, and try to put them off-balance. So lets have a look at what they tried here. First off, they will open with some type
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uh...your posts are on "hold", so all my posts appeared before yours did, so there was no "reaction" from me, except in your weak attempt to play a weak mind game. Look, you LGAT culty folks can do your little "attacks" on your victims in your church and get away with it, but that nonsense does not work with someone like myself. All my posts are lies? That is a
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Here is some excellent info from another thread, that is precisely relevant to the Royal Way sect. From what we have seen so far, The Royal Way appears to fail completely on every single one of these critieria. Can it get any worse than that? See Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability Accountability, independent oversight and financial disclosure are important to me, but I
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That same user 'Sm1969' is spreading more lies and nonsense. He is still talking about Landmark vs. Rick Ross, and quoting about how the problem is "with the courts". Just a flat out falsehood. Landmark were the ones who withdrew their case, obviously to avoid the judicial process! Even after all these years, the dishonesty and mendacity of these folks like this '
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By the way, in a decent and proper non-profit, none of this is necessary. You just call up the secretary, and ask them to mail you their package with their official tax filings showing how they spend their money, assets, debts, salaries, and everything else. They would even have it all on their website, audited by independent professionals. This way you know your donations are going to good use
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QuoteAnon1234This is from the San Bernardino County Recorder's Office. The RW actually owns 45 properties...I only detailed some here to give you an idea. Just these alone total over 250 acres of land and over $1,500,000 in cost value or assessed value. What on Earth does a church need this much land for Very interesting! What happens with some of these so-called "non-profit&qu
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Notice the outrageous hypocrisy and blatant bald-faced dishonesty when Landmark says they believe in free speech on the internet? How uber-cynical and perverse to put out that kind of statement, unless Landmark has redefined "Free Speech" to mean, "threaten, bully and file frivolous lawsuits against every person you possibly can to suppress free speech no matter the cost".
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seems there's some questions about the "wacko" group which now controls the "RW Ranch". Quote...Which wacko group now controls the big place up "High Road" on the way too AV? I sware, that place probably had a dozen different wacko groups up there in the years I lived there. Wasn't ever sure what the heck they were doing up there... probably don't
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This appears to be the RW Ranch, which is apparently owned by Royal Way. Rw Ranch Lucerne Valley, CA [...] Wow, look at that, another "religious non-profit" with luxury properties. What a "great" tax system...starting a "religion" seems to be the way to build wealth fast. After all, no capital gains tax, no nothing! One wonders what else will turn up
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That is an interesting post made by the username "John D. Zemanek". First off, for a so-called spiritual person, its pretty nasty in terms of personally attacking whoever posted their viewpoint. It also has some obvious errors in it. -he says Michael is not a therapist. That is false. MICHAEL M GOTTLIEB was a registered MARRIAGE AND FAMILY THERAPIST for 30 years! (Issue Date: Ju
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QuotebellsAlthough anyone can run a search on Mr. Zemanek, I find your post disrespectful and tacky. This board is about the Royal Way, not about its members. Well, that's because you didn't read my post carefully enough! As I carefully said, someone has posted here under that user name, but that does not mean he is that person who is posting here. I have not posted any personal
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It appears the video can be viewed here. Does this work for anyone? If so, perhaps the EFF can update their links to the video.
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Yes, it appears the video is gone from Daily Motion now too. No explanation on the site, but it seems logical the same thing happened there. Hopefully someone will let the EFF know about this, and perhaps there is someone else who would host the video? Landmark is so foolish and ignorant. What they have done is made this video seem "forbidden" and everyone wants to see what is
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There is something seriously wrong with this DCC. Peter Rigo, their Leader, gets joy out of breaking up familes. They have posted a statement of their beliefs, and they seem to believe in the Christ Consciousness type of idea, speaking in tongues, faith healing, greed is good, and also the weird idea of being "snatched away" to Heaven, as the world is going to end at any moment, etc
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One interesting thing, earlier in the thread, someone mentioned that there was something related to The Royal Way sect on Olympic Blvd? QuoteI asked if I can come to intro night to see with my own eyes and hear with my own ears. I went as far and contacted the W. LA office on Olympic Blvd. to ask if I can come to a meeting. Then a professed member of RW said there was no such thing? Quotethe L
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ok, here is the info, the online search engine is not very good. The Royal Way is a registered Charity in California, but the info is not online for some reason. Because there is such a complete lack of financial disclosure from The Royal Way, people should avoid The Royal Way, at all costs. They should openly publish their information, instead of being so secretive. Why is The Royal Way so
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This is very strange, nothing about The Royal Way is coming up on the California website. You can search there using various critieria, and look up financial records, etc. Is The Royal Way a charity nonprofit? If so, then why is it not listed? QuoteUsing this search tool, you can find information on nonprofit organizations located or doing business in California which are federally re
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This appears to be the public information about The Royal Way. If it is not, please say so. QuoteDISCLAIMER: The information displayed here is current as of OCT 27, 2006 and is updated weekly. It is not a complete or certified record of the Corporation. Corporation THE ROYAL WAY Number: C1026463 Date Filed: 10/3/1980 Status: active Jurisdiction: California Address [...]
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That's good that Slashdot picked it up. A way to get it into the mainstream media, is to send the EFF press release to Reuters, and other news outfits. Also, send it to various Tech news sites. Landmark has made a horrendous error in judgement, due to their arrogance and ignorance, and apparently their incompetent lawyering! Also, the internet community hate it when people try to
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Quotenotalone I agree and appreciate anticult's comments, others too who have an open mind. It is very different watching the show and being on it. Only a small portion gets aired....you don't know how many hours of preparation and footage was really done to condense to the actual minutes for the show. That was over three months of work, by the way for the many staff members and me.
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Here are a couple of links to start. Maybe someone could call them up, and find out if those tax-filings can be accessed. I have seen them for other non-profits. Someone could just call them up, and find someone who could tell you where and if that info can be found. If Royal Way is claiming $0 assets, and $0 income, and is not making filings...that can't be correct, as in this
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Since Royal Way is a non-profit, the concerned public can access the public records about the company, assets, salaries, etc. If you do a little research, make a few calls, you can get PDF copies of the information they have to submit to the government. If one sees large discrepencies between what was submitted to the government, and what is actually going on, a complaint can be lodged, and t
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These Landmarkians seem to be beyond irrational when it comes to Rick Ross. I looked at their litigation from before, and they found some phony "expert" to try and say that Rick Ross was writing all of the critical comments about Landmark in these forums himself, and pretending to be all these different people! That has to be one of the most asinine things I have ever seen alleged in my
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Yes, if Wikipedia actually was able to function properly, then the user Sm1969 would certainly be banned for abuse. According to my count, the guy made 31 edits TODAY on that one article! He's obviously a Landmark obsessive maniac. It would seem reasonable that this person is so obsessed with that entry, because he got orders from some "lawyer" high up at Landmark to attack, at
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Its probably a very different experience being on a Dr. Phil show, than watching it. There is a massive staff for that show. After all, its US TV, and they sensationalize everything, and use sound-bites, and the rest of it, as part of the ratings game. Also, the religious language is a US thing, where 95% of the people want to hear that type of thing. I would take it on a case by case basis.
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Quotejoe6 And concerning the new "shift", what would happen if Google/You Tube had to give Landmark the "identiy" of the user anyway. Wouldn't this just be a random email address? What, are they going to sue an email address? No, they can trace any person using the "IP address" which cross-referenced through the person's ISP account, will reveal who the
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I have personally criticized Dr. Phil quite a bit over various things, but I have never met the guy in person. So I certainly think its valid for someone who has actually been on his show, to feel that it helped them. If they feel that the Dr. Phil cult show helped, them, then that makes sense to me. Its very different to be ON a show, than to watch it on TV. Also, it does seem to me that
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QuoteRED HERRING, The Business Of Technology Google, YouTube Video Challenge Rights group attacks self-help group’s Google and YouTube ‘cult’ video demands. October 31, 2006 An international self-help organization has subpoenaed YouTube and Google Video for the identity of the individuals who uploaded a French-made video that the group believes infringes its U.S. copyright, and that
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This is the actual press release from the EFF, with very clear language. QuoteOctober 30, 2006 Self-Help Group Bullies Net Critics Landmark Forum Violates Constitution and Federal Law by Trying to Chill Speech San Francisco - The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is fighting a controversial self-help group's coordinated, illegal campaign to silence Internet critics. San Fr
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