Ok.... ideals versus reality... there is one incontestible reality at work, the presence of the health insurance INDUSTRY which has financial imperatives of its own.... they show a marked preference for medications because medicating problems is cheaper than dialog based or multi-modal (dialog plus medication) therapy.... the fault here is economic, there is a strong incentive to contain costs by
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"Ron Hubbard Jr. remembers that when he was ten years old, his father, in an attempt to get his son in tune with his black magic worship, laced the young Hubbard's bubble gum with phenobarbital. According to Ron Jr. drugs were an important part of Ron Jr.'s growing up, as his father believed that they were the best way to get closer to Satan--the Antichrist of black magic.
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Where, oh, where DO these outlandish ideas come from ? What was the pebble rolling down the mountain that grew into to the LandSlide of MindCrap ? Hmmmmm.... here's a juicy little interview with L. Ron Hubbard Jr., that's righ. Ron's SON.... who consented to a devastating interview in Penthouse magazine... as he know Ron better than enyone..... so, take a look and see for you
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Alright.... and probably for the same reason you only encounter Landmark trainers within the carfully controlled environment of the training room... no different than casino floors filled with slot machines are also carefully controlled, you could say orchestrated, for a specific effect, with everything else removed... Do you ever see Landmark trainers discussing, or defending, heck, explainin
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Helpful hint: there is a deeply embedded suggestion in the, ahhh, "languaging" of Nu Age Junkthink(tm)... that ALL you require is a (somewhat mysterious, to be sure, but take our word for it, marvellously powerful) shift in perspective.... you see, the problem isn't the way your brain works, or your life experiences, or the situation you are in, oh no, the problem is the way you in
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Anything that is intense and destabilizing can lead to emotional breakdown, I suppose. Any wonder why mental hospitals maintain bland, quiet, unperturbed environments ? Paradox moment here. One might imagine that "those in need of help" on one level or another would be drawn to any organization that promises (however evasively, using carefully chosen non-specific, fudge factor smok
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The cult leaders are only half to blame... they have identified a basic human trait, or weakness if you want to call it that... the desire to let go of true responsibility and let someone else do the driving... to "regress away from complexity".... Tony Robbins, for example, uses a tremendous amount of regressive trance induction, playing lots of music from earlier times in people'
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Quote sociopaths who head up cults! One should be realistic about these things.... sociopaths often have superb interpersonal skills of an incredibly warped sort... you could read the available literature and develop a profile of what makes them tick... They seem to have a counterpart personality out there in the world, in criminal circumstances they call this type "the mark", in g
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Consider it part of the thought fog.... in EST the mantra was "so what ?"... all the groups I've hung around have these dopey rejoinders they burp out whever they feel any anxiety... the Scientologists were deeply concerned with Entheta... alien karmic snot on your subtle energy body it seems...
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QuoteI am sorry if I offended anyone with this statement. I realize it is very shocking. Neither shocking nor surprising. In the EST 6 day training we had Sex Night where were were bombarded with with 3 movie screens of hardcore pornography... each screen had a seperate hardcore film on it. Each reel was composed of maybe a dozen hardcore short films, spliced together to form a mind numbing &qu
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study the eyes very carefully, learn to closely observe the tension patterns around the orbit of the eyes, make note of incongruities between eye expression and macro facial expressions...
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You know, every one of these rackets I hear about or come across, they are all basically the same FORMULA under the skin.... there is an intense emotional rush of sudden belonging, bonding, renewed sense of meaning and significance.... followed by "signing solemn emotional contracts".... followed by "you are the sole cause of anything negative that happens here"... followed by
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Quote This is exactly word for word what my lekky ex-girlfriend would tell me. Isn't that amazing? They can't think by themselves aymore... or maybe they choose to! I think that it is of basic importance to understand that a percentage of "free thinking, self directed" people out there living their lives have a profound unconscious wish to be externally controlled. They h
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It is an excellent book. I'm halfway through it now. Can be technical, requires patience and close reading skills. The best possible material for open discussion of the faith versus reason arena.
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The word is out on this clown. His proposed legislation has made him a national laughingstock. Trying to stuff a dirty sock into the mouth of the Blogsphere (how's that for a mangled metaphor ?) is a 100% surefire way to nuke your credibility. You'd think they learn from Scientology's ummmm, public relations clunkers.... maybe Conan O'Brien will have him for a guest, Mayor McC
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One might also note that Assemblyman Peter J. Biondi will, in all probability, make an awful embarrassment of himself and the New Jersey State Legislature before he accomplishes anything concrete. These buttheaded attempts to stifle political discussion seem to generate powerful blowback...
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Quote is where this could get real dangerous. To borrow from the movie Casablanca, "I'm shocked, simply shocked !".... Hypocrisy ? In politics..... immmmpossible! Do we notice a PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR here ? 1. Claim to have the highest of ideals. Embrace the values of an open society. Blurbble on about the wonders of diversity. It all about the CONVERSATION, baby.... 2
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Looks like the usual suspects don't like free speech so much after all. Once upon a time Boss Tweed railed against cartoons that made fun of him in the press... he was rumored to have belloed, "Stop them damn pictures!!!!!!!!!!" Let us never forget WHY free speech is absolutely central to the exercise of democracy, nor why open, unfettered discussions are critical for social pro
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QuoteOh but what has he to do with LEC?....... What can one say better than they have said for themselves: Quote"Werner Erhard, founder of the Hunger Project, recipient of the Gandhi Humanitarian Award (1988), and the creator of est and The Forum - two highly successful personal growth seminars Now, since the Lekkos have invested some $$$ to perform a textual analysis of the writings
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QuoteWerner Erhard also accumulated a number of powerful enemies. In December 1991, an article appeared in the Los Angeles Times that documented a well-organized media campaign engineered by a particular organization to ruin Mr. Erhard's reputation. ahhhh... let us perform a little thought experiment, shall we ??, maybe Art Schreiber would like to join us on our mental adventure ! Ready, A
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Their favorite attitude (directed towards themselves) is REVERENCE.... they are oh so REVERENT.... the mere mention of Werner Hans causes a lowering of vocal pitch, a slight tremolo..... WERNER.... I never saw a church service so dripping with REVERENCE.... and, frankly, over time, with no clear feeback from the outside world, they bought it, they fell for their own lines, they got another ra
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Too good for words... their smokescreen is blown... meanwhile back at the WernerBunker they're probably cooking up a new stack of rationalizations, how bad they were victimized by this ugly matter, how they were Made Wrong, boo hoo... Source is NOT happy about this one ! , not one little bit, and when he returns to Urph for the Rapture he's gonna know who was naughty and who was nice
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Does this happen to all of them ? Is this a superstar neurosis that only the strongest personalities can resist ? Is it the result of being known on a first name basis by pumped up fans living out a fantasy relationship ? Tony, Werner, Ron, John-Roger..... sheeesh, even Dracula had the class to refer to himself by his familial name... Could you imagine, "bwaaahaaaahaaaa.... I am
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That was worthy reading.
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There's a degree of criticism of TR within the NLP community, mostly about the addicitve high from the events... his fans aren't developing the skill sets that are required for good NLP practice because they walk away with the belief that an intense feeling state of passion, energy, adrenaline high, lots of hugs is the same as having well refined skills built up from years of exhaustive
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You have to read the story in this issue of Rolling Stone (the pop culture magazine): You might be amazed at how much RonThink(tm) was patterned onto WernerThink(tm) was patterned onto LECthink(tm) ! Pretty much all that LEC is missing is the E-meters and the Xenu Space Opera and the hot abnormal celeb promo items like TomKat... at least Travolta has the sense to fly his planes and k
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Filtrers.... filters... filters.... Where HAVE I heard that term used before ???.... ah yes... the NLP trainings.... ya know, the people who know all about Eriksonian Hypnosis and Belief Shifting and "covert installation".... now, will all this high fallutin' blather about Acknowledging Source, you'd think they'd be so kind, so full of their bubblin' hi standard I
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sure.... what CAN you say about your Fearless Leader when confronted with : "Undaunted by the mountains of criticism, Erhard and other Hunger Project officials planned a promotional "relaunching" of the project in the fall of 1987, to celebrate its tenth anniversary. "Well, folks, I don't know about you," John Denver said at the time, "but when you listen to
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We believe what we are capable of believing. We disbelieve what we are incapable of believing. There are, as we live and breathe, those persons who are incapable of believing in the theory of evolution. There are those who are capable of believing that the Holocaust did not happen. When cleverly packaged for mental absorbtion, there is almost nothing that a group of humans, somewhere on the face
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You may have to take another tack and do everything in your power to teach your kids critical thinking skills. I used to do this with some adolescents in my area. I taught them the most important questions in their mental arsenal are "how do you know that ?" and "what evidence exists for that assertion?"... teach your kids to question, that it is ok to want to know the source
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