QuoteThe original message in this thread sounds really awful! This is why I stepped away from Paganism (the semi-organized type anyway). So many Pagans and Wiccans engage in "witch wars" in which they engage in behavior that is so clearly in contrast to the beliefs and tenets of those religions. The Wiccan Rede strictly admonishes, "An' it harm none, do what ye will." Tho
Forum: Hate Groups

QuoteoakI will be taking legal action against CH. From what I can see from earlier in this thread, a couple of women spoke to the police about CH following the start of this thread- the details of which officer they were speaking to etc were given so other women could also speak to the officer concerned, but then there has been many months of silence here about that, suggesting the police did n
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

ignore grrrr
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

oh this time it worked- just my luck lol
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse

hi hope I've told them on the forum tech board (listed at the boottom of the index) that if we click 'reply' it creates a new thread rather than replying, but they didn't do anything about it lol, maybe you could mention it there too
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse

Quotegreg hamond"not have an absolute leader and is in fact not rigidly organized around an established hierarchy that exploits its members." depends what you mean by EXPLOIT.....and its tenets are rigid !!!! however people are free to leave. People are not free to leave if they're told, and really believe, that if they don't keep going to meetings they'll relapse, be
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse

Quotekath Hi I think I tried to just use 'reply' at the time and it didn't work. And started a new thread. And this time too. Check it and see if just 'reply' option works for you to stay in the same thread, or creates a new one. Maybe it's just doing it foor some people.:) Someone else had it happen here
Forum: Tech support for this board

Quotezenon. Both will create a reply in the same thread, the only difference being that "Quote This Message" will insert a quote of the message that you are replying to in your reply. To avoid excessive quoting, it might be easier to use the "Reply to This Message" function and add quotes as needed with the quote button in the editor. Hi I think I tried to just use 're
Forum: Tech support for this board

Hi I clicked in the relevant thread (Hansard thhread on the main 'cults' board) to write a reply, but unless i quoted a previious poster using the board's quoting function, it didn't post my reply to the thread, but instead started a whole new thread! Embarrassing.:) Has this changed, as I'm sure before I could just respond to threads if I was in them. P.S. I approv
Forum: Tech support for this board

QuotepemaI received an email this morning (Wed 7 Nov) from someone called Han Blan who claims that Michael Lyons aka Dr Mohan was arrested at London airport on 21 Sept. on charges of multiple rape and sexual assault. He's in the same league as Hansard -- phoney Tibetan Buddhist persona, courting high lamas etc; Also claims to be a healer. Has harem of young(ish) female acolytes. Dunno if I&#
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

please ignore/delete
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

The police aren't following it up, then.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

QuoteKepheriWhy only put half of what i said down Kath? Because that's how people answer posts if they're quoting someone- look at other's posts to this forum that do so. You don't like wikipedia, (my tip for wikipedia is I read the talk page too and that contains all the arguments from the different sides of the debate) well, here is the owner of this site's own re
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

I thought every post of new members used to be moderated, until they reached about 25 posts. Is this no longer the case? I'm sure it'll be sorted soon anyway :)
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

there are several groups called that, all based (imaginatively, probably not much real connection) on an early 20th century/19th c group that has not been around for years. The most 'well known' group now is probably Hermetic order of the golden dawn, Inc. I've been following a lot of these different HOGD groups exploits on wikipedia. each group has some fanatical fans a
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

QuoteKepheriAnd the 135 year incarceration holds no considerable reason other then that Dr. York is considered a dangerous man to society by america. No. It means he was found guilty of being a dangerous man to dozens of little children. No offence meant but- why have you come here if you're a 'fan' and are going to swallow what he tells you despite the evidence of him being
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Quotecb you have surely suffered a lot and are excellent at what you do. but have you not thought about how your contradicition affects all the people, teachings and teachers you are associated with and everyone who has been affected by this situation? please have some consideration People should be allowed to turn the negative of learning from Hansard into a positive. If they can turn i
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

your point about cults being....? :)
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups

He was convicted of multiple RICO, child molestation, and financial reporting charges and sentenced to 135 years in prison. His case was appealed to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, but that court upheld the convictions on 27 October 2005.[27] I know he's claiming it's racist or something for a court to have found him guilty, but 135 years, that's pretty conclusive to me!
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

There's another bit of a thread about this lot here
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

QuoteFishbulb The person who set up the online petition supporting Hansard said the following: QuoteHe has proven himself oh so human, yet no less human and no more fallible than the rest of us. I have always found this sentiment to be particularly galling when applied to people who have victimized others. Precisely it's not like all humans take advantage of others sexually etc. :x
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

I have known someone who was very into 'psychadelic therapy' and the results were not good IMHO, and it does have potential for abuse if a therapist were to take at most only a small amount of the drug, then the 'client' is under the influence of the drug completely. Then it is could be easy for unethical 'therapists' to try it on sexually. Personally I wouldn�
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse

Have the police said they will arrest him or anything? Or just kept it on file? I know how useless the police can be but even seeing them, having it on file or raising it on forums such as this is really good. :)
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

QuotecorboyStress can increase cortisol levels...and many LGAT set ups are reportedly very stressful. Jane Pauley's story is damned interesting because her case demonstrates how a person can have a predisposition to bipolar without knowing it. And if someone who unknowingly has such a predispostion attends a high stress pressure cooker LGAT, or goes to a very rugged part of the world
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups

Yay! I wish you well for your new future :)
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

QuoteFrank BlackSomething else that I have to say is that for some time, CH did not allow me to pay for my treatments. This outreaching of generosity I will never forget, and I can certainly say he saved my life. I was very suicidal at the time and over time the treatment allowdd me to live normally and have a balanced mental state. I agree with an earlier poster, that as far as emotional distur
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Excellent!!!!! :) :) Well done everyone :)
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

I've no doubt that darkness can be used for meditation and ritual, but:- QuoteveronicanoodleThe Kogi indians, for example, keep their shamans in darkness for 19 years before they come back to the tribe. I doubt this, seriously. For many reasons. In complete darkness? For the entire time? How would they maintain that, for a start? :)
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

QuoteReal-name-goneSadly I have to report that one of my clients who was at one point in the orbit of Hansard went to the police to report her experiences, the police were less than helpful in this matter. While I would encourage anyone to go to the police, (if that feels right for them) it is good to have a support system around you and either before or afterwards to talk to a counsellor or to
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Not saying you are wrong, Jeff, but if you blame followers partly for their leaders' alleged actions it doesn't encourage them to question and stop following him. It just puts them on the defensive, they will feel attacked and angry at you, rather than questioning their involvement with Hansard. Any abuse usually has 'enablers' involved, but the enablers themselves have ra
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