Part of the reason information & education helped is because it makes me feel less isolated. Thats one of the reasons why this message board is so important. It links us to others that have had like experiences, yet we get to remain anonymous. With the circumstances we have been thru identity is challenged so it's part of what I feel more protective about and it's easy to feel i
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Sounds like the group I spent time with. The teacher/leader was/is extemely talented at manipulation and it's a predictable cycle if you are paying attention. New people who are hooked by the teaching and charisma and then are slowly lurred into the inner circle of the trusted ones. Noone is exempt from his (and eventually others) abuse though. Some are more sought out than others depending
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You can break down the passive manipulation in the sentences if you use logic. They subtly contradict each other ex: It starts with Be racket free and then proceeds to describe the commandment racket. Consider the meaning you already have imprinted for the word commandment......without landmarks influence. Then that is being added to with their specific message. They've already half way
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Informed consent!
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Sorry about the difficulties with the harassment. I hope things get better for you, sucks! Be well, Lucretia
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Interesting, I keep wondering why I'm not more angry. I am mostly going through stages of sadness, betrayal and confusion. I know I have reason to be angry it makes logical sense, however the feeling just isn't really there. I"m familiar with anger it is very powerful and can be healthy, precipitiuos to change. So I'm somewhat dissapointed about that. Funny one of the things
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Toni, This is why up until the other day I hadn't named what group i was in because i'm concerned about being harrassed more than i already have been. I felt it was important though to get it out there if possible so people could save themselves some money, time, aggravation, identity crisis etc,etc,etc. refer to: LGAT Goes to Australia Anyway people in this group live close to me,
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I'm sorry,it's a difficult situation. That definitly is suspicous though of any supposed professional organization. In my experience the best way to deal with coersive manipulation is educating oneself. One of the reasons people fall for this is because of lack of information. We don't think of ourselves as easy targets for any conman so to speak. These people are not just any
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FYI just wanted to let anyone who may be interested know that the group I belonged to for a few years is (for the first time) working in Australia. The name of the "community" as they call it is Integrated Awareness. It's trademarked and is marketed as an ongoing training for people who are interested in becoming teachers of this technique. This is explained as someone who can t
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Ultaware, Speaking (writing) in metaphor, it's not effective.......in this situation. One of the after effects for me that is particularly bothersome is the loaded language crap. So it's very useful to me when someone is straight forward in their languaging. Metaphor (though I understand the appeal at times) can also in a xcult situation be triggering. What is it that you are
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Hope, I think that's great. I'd love it if the guy who i was involved w/ for 5 yrs. had his name out there as the true predator he is. i doubt that will happen in my case thou he's particularly careful about his operations (so to speak). Anyway, congratulations! Every victory counts. Lucretia
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Ultaware, What's a Lekkie?
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So is this life immitating fiction sort of thing a described tendency of narrcissitic personality disorder? Common sense tells me this has got to be listed as something in the DSM V, (or whatever # its up to now). So depending on what kind of psycho path we are dealing with we can just pick up the popular fiction of the day and find out what the hell it's all about, Ha Ha (sarcasm can be use
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TX for the info, sigh!!!!!!!!! One of the weirdest parts (can it get any weirder? why yes), is that I've recently been checking out the old SciFi book Stranger in a Strange Land. It's like this guy is trying to be Mike. Or thinks he is and is working on creating this community (cult) to mirror this book. They don't make the perscription drugsyou need for this kind of stuff..PHSY
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Ya know what they say both Hitler and Jesus still have followers. Decisions decisions, decisions............................
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Hope, You said something about him wanting to fill up football stadiums. Thats pretty much verbatim to what I've had fed to me, and the whole scheme about getting students/clients/aprentices to his workshops get public there and not pay them for it. Are these people all working off the same play book(pardon the pun)?
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I've heard of that book , Ill look it up. I have often refered to this as a similar technique to child abuse. What I think is particularly despicable is how what a person is doing aka:alternative healing, awareness and or consciousness training to take care of themselves in reference to their abused childhood/past is exactly the tool used to take advantage of them all over again, hence the a
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I've not read much on the site about this. In the group I was in the leader did a divide and conquer stlye coersion with the women to create more sexual opportunity for his own personal relationships with them. Many of them being sexual, but there were other agendas too. Anything that was self satisfying. Of course all the women thought they were the only ones at least for the time being. I
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For all the proselytizing of these consciousness groups I'd like to know how many of them are actually in there getting down and dirty and helping with the hard stuff. Ya know chop wood carry water. That was part of what helped me realize I was in a cult. For all the so called compassion and healing they promote there was very little action other than trips to the bank.
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ultaware, It's been quite a process and I have a ways to go. Educating myself about how this could have happened to me has been extremely helpful. If your interested one of the books I've read that has been useful is The Manipulated Mind: Brainwashing,Conditioning and Indoctrination By: Denise Winn Good Luck
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In answer to your question. I do feel landmark seems to be a majority of the focus at this site. Having been part of a different group that is much less well known (about 100 members). I'm wondering if their is a corporate machine part to landmark that is different than the more personalized exploitation and manipulation than I have been dealing with. I'm curious if anyone has an opin
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I am in agreement with Delphina . Do not go back there for any reason if you know it's not for you, certainly don't go back there to instigate any "resistance" to their "process". They have this stuff down and will not tolerate any kind of doubt being propogated into the group as a whole. Just take care of yourself and hope others will get a clue. Thankfully you did
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PRW, Sorry to hear about your difficult journey. I was in a different group than the ones you mentioned for 5 years. My marraige was over within the first year then my home was sold, then my practice closed.I almost even gave up custody of my 3 children (thank God I drew the line somewhere) All within the first two years. I think I broke some kind of record. I don't think my ex has a clue I
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Yeah, unfortunately that sounds all too familiar. The "parental model" and the paradox of life was frequently used in hypnotic suggestion. This particular group practices "brain mapping" education accessing thru touch and intention: cadates, amygdala, temporal lobes, parietal lobes, visual cortex, hypothalamus, etc..... Oh yeah! and to explain the MF "confusion is your fr
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Hi, The visual cortex was described to us as a donut shape at the back of the skull, the inside hole is the primary cortex, focused concentration. The outside of the hole (the donut itself) is the secondary cortex, soft focus, higher perceptual awareness. We spent significant amounts of time praticing going between the two and telling them apart on ourselves and other people thru touch awarenes
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I have recently exited a cult/ LGAT that I was a member of for 5 yrs. Part of the training in this group is refered to as quantal / higher demensional healing. This involves training one to percieve more fully through the primary and secondary visual cotrex. Primary is described as concentrated focus or mental body. Secondary is described as soft focus or expanded perceptual states. From the seco
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