By the way, from seeing Liz Gilbert on Oprah, at least at that time, she appeared to be a glassy-eyed true believer, who was deeply programmed. The amazing thing is the general public has no idea that there are many people out there, who are highly skilled in taking fairly naive and innocent people, and very quickly taking them in, and deeply programming them in advanced and subtle ways. Its to
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That's part of the REAL reason why Stephen Mitchell suppressed Losing The Moon, as well as the other book A Cry In The Desert, also detailed in this thread. Stephen Mitchell had a strong enough marketing sense to realize all that insane "Nazi" stuff from Byron Katie would destroy her career. So he suppressed it. They literally bought books back, and destroyed them. He also
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Anyone can search the internet for keywords, for Losing The Moon. "Losing The Moon" pdf byron katie Byron Katie - ebook - Losing The Moon (complete).pdf. One has to wonder what the media in Germany, and German citizens will have to say about Byron Katie's many statements about Hitler and the Nazi's and the Holocaust, that she made in her recent book publish
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Here is more proof about Losing The Moon. A Byron Katie insider posted this, about how Stephen Mitchell personally destroyed and bought back copies of Losing The Moon. August 24, 2009 "And there, again, you have one of the reasons why Stephen Mitchell personally destroyed many many copies of Losing The Moon, same reason why he still buys them off the internet. There are just too many o
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Does Byron Katie and her senior staff tell brazen lies? In her suppressed book Losing The Moon, Byron Katie says this... (QUOTE from "Losing The Moon" by Byron Katie.) Quote: "EVERYTHING WE SAY HERE IS A LIE. BUT ONLY EVERYTHING". Superficial and naive followers of Byron Katie better wake-up and quick, and see what is really going on with the complex Byron
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Byron Katie uses her EYES as a mass-marketing technique, and its very effective. It works on many levels, as it builds instant FALSE-INTIMACY with large groups of strangers. Stephen Mitchell, and Byron Katie, and their Glittering Eyes marketing stories Stephen Mitchell’s Valentine’s Story, hypno-EYES People are instructed to sit at home, and STARE at the Byron Katie photos on her books,
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There is a very good DVD class on the human brain. Understanding the Brain, taught by Dr. Jeanette Norden Many public libraries would have this DVD program on the human brain, 16 hours of accurate knowledge one can watch for free on DVD. A fascinating point made, is that there are specific brain structures that are connected to each person's "autobiography" in their o
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@ CosmicConnie: Abe-Hicks have a rather large multimilliondollar business going, with many followers. Even though Mrs Hicks is a horrible actress when she fakes going into a Abe-Trance, the Abe-Hicks couple ain't stupid. So of course they are not going to risk their own necks openly for James Ray, as James Ray might get convicted. Abe doesn't want to get tarred with James Ray, just
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Who wrote that piece of poison for Byron Katie? Stephen Mitchell or someone else? Here is an important point. Byron Katie uses that type of material as deep persuasion propaganda, to shape how people think about her in their minds. So why post the full-text of Byron Katie promotion propaganda writings, without any attribution, and without any analysis? This is dangerous material, that fool
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Of course, in a non-cultic environment, difference of opinion is healthy! But there have been many terrible mistakes made about James Ray. The worst are in the media, and in those who wanted to ban sweat lodges, and the like. James Ray has nothing to do with sweat lodges, it was just an instrument for him. He could have used an igloo, or desert island, or hotel ballroom. What was James
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There are a couple on interesting posts by a username of "Antara" at the Janaki blog. Now allegedly the username "Antara" might connnect to a therapist at the halfway-house where BK supposedly had her cosmic Roach Motel metamorphosis. Have any of the BK former-Lifers heard that name before? But even a supposed BK insider, who says they were there at the time, is say
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There is a interesting post by someone with the username "Antara" on the Janaki blog, who claims there were there the day after the alleged cockroach hypnotized Byron Katie. Absolutely fascinating. Antara says that over a period of 2 years, that Byron Katie found the "language" for what happened, by doing all of the self-helpy seminars, 12 steps, and other material that
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Any so-called "therapist" who hooks people into Byron Katie and refers them to her dangerous LGAT seminar needs to be reported to their licensing committee. (if they have one). Many so-called therapists are totally unregulated, and can be completely incompetent, or also running their own Byron Katie style "Life-Coaching" business, or be Mind-washed by Byron Katie themselves.
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There is a book and a satirical movie coming out called "Men Who Stare At Goats". There was an interview with the writer of the book, British journalist Jon Ronson, where he said some special forces in the military experimented with using various New Age techniques in psy-ops, which were taken from various hippy-dippy cults of the 1960's. Amazingly, he mentioned a technique cal
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The Byron Katie Newsletter, September 2009 Just shameless. They open the newsletter, calling people their dearest FAMILY. That is an emotional technique, obviously, part of the Love-Bombing. And targeting those who are idealists and have no training in how these LGAT seminars work. Anyone can see the LGAT techniques, even in the photos, where they have the entire room facing eachother in
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The narcissism is everywhere...Stephen Mitchell refers to himself in their promotional materials as...ya gotta know he wrote that line. "the distinguished writer Stephen Mitchell" [74.125.113.132] for some more distinguished comedy, search Google for these terms: "stephen mitchell" distinguished Even his own website says about his alleged Gilgamesh (triple-che
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Its best just to ignore the internet sock-puppets who simply want to derail a thread, and gain some attention for themselves. Its easy to spot the same patterns that have been used many times before. Byron Katie blocks and censors ALL posts about her that might be even slightly critical from her web forums. So there are plenty of places to post propaganda for Byron Katie. Stephen Mitchell
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Stephen Mitchell was connected with the agent Michael Katz going back decades, and are both connected with the so-called "Zen" stuff they say they do. Their "Story" is that Katz introduced Mitchell to Byron Katie in 2000. Is that true? Doesn't sound too believable, that would have to be proven, as their "Stories" are generally just strategic and concocted.
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In the book Altar Music by Christin Lore Weber... There is an excerpt from Rilke, from a "translation" by Stephen Mitchell. and one of the main characters names is...Kate / Katie. Of course..its all fiction. ;-) "This book is a work of fiction. Names, characters, places, and incidents either are products of the author's imagination or are used fictitiously. Any re
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Its amazing at how little has changed, going back 20 years to 1989 when that review was written by David Hinton. Stephen Mitchell was hooked-up 20 years ago with his "prince among agents, my friend Michael Katz", and there is more information about Katz in this thread. Stephen Mitchell's Guru, Seung Sahn, is inserted into the text, and it would be the "crowning moment&qu
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(EXCERPT of review June 26, 1989 The Nation) __________________________________________________ What Zen? DAVID HINTON TAO TE CHING. By Lao-tzu. A New English Version by Stephen Mitchell. Harper & Row. 108pp. $15.95. The news in February 1988 that Harper & Row had paid Stephen Mitchell $130,000 for a new translation of Lao-tzu’s Tao Te Ching should have marked a minor wa
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Its interesting that the above reviews of Stephen Mitchell's Tao Te Ching, even mention Seung Sahn being inserted into it. Of course, they were not aware that he was a close follower of Seung Sahn, which ended at the time when the sexual scandals came to light, as shown in this thread, and this other thread. (Seung Sahn) Kwan Um School of Zen
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QUOTE of review of Tao Te Ching by Stephen Mitchell _________QUOTE_________________________ a fabrication, January 4, 2009 By rcr In his preface and notes which form a part of this book, Mitchell (1)makes clear his belief that Lao-tzu is a historic person , and not just a mythical figure; (2) asserts that the Tao Te Ching (TTC)is the work of a single author, Lao-tzu; (3) states
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A follow-up about the book Grace Unfolding: Psychotherapy in the Spirit of Tao-te ching (Paperback) The second quote from the Introduction is from (Mitchell, 67). And they had to seek permission from the publishers to quote from their books, so they knew about that book in detail for many years, until they copied its format. The goal of the Byron Katie Tao book, was to try to associat
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Interesting comment about Stephen Mitchell's "new-age paraphrase of the Tao Te Ching". And of course, some shilling in the comments for BK-SM from Richard Lawrence Cohen. ___________QUOTE______________ (Wait, isn't Stephen Mitchell married to Byron Katie? Did he write "the master, she" before or after that? If before, was it a self-fulfilling prophecy? A c
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Quoteoncebitten Actually as I started to write this it rings a bell about how BK has a story about her husband (Stephen the douche)* gave her a wedding her and asked her with a smile to keep it as long as she could because she has a tendency to just randomly give her possesions away. The anecdote was all very light hearted and endearing but not in retrospect as anticult laid out that this can act
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Even after getting a friendly and promotional LA Times article, that literally did not ask ANY tough questions at all...even that is not enough for Stephen Mitchell. He had to write a comment to the editor. Look at the language used in the title, which one assumes was written by Stephen Mitchell? THE STORY STRAIGHT FROM THE SOURCE. Look at those loaded code-words and how they are used. Story
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Notice the outrageous and absurd level of hypocrisy here. Solvejg posts here telling people to "leave the rest", and ignore the parts they don't like. While simultaneously posting a couple dozen rants against Janaki's experience and balanced viewpoint. Why didn't Solvejg just "leave the rest" of what Janaki wrote? Sorry, but this is the kind of blatant d
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Yes, of course, they are all in cahoots with eachother, doing eachother's cross-marketing, to lure in the Marks and suckers if they can find them. They don't get that many of them, but at $150K a pop in advance, you don't need many. And the $150K is just the START, they will do everything to keep it going for YEARS and YEARS. And they will upsell from there too. Its almost unbeli
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Looking at what "Kassy" has tried to do here, is quite interesting, even in its outrageousness. First off, this person says they just read a book by Byron Katie, and isn't part of the BK system. Do they really believe people are that stupid? They are not. Then, all of a sudden, this person appears to know everything about everything about Byron Katie, without even having rea
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