Hi, I didn't see anything about suicidal thoughts, so please don't try to taint my character by suggesting I don't have empathy towards anyone who feels hurt. I wrote that I am sorry that some people have had bad experiences as mine was not. I saw something about someone feeling that they were attacked psychically but didnt see the word suicide. I went to Rinpoche at a time w
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Thanks Corboy, you raise a very important point. The thing is, I don't hold "rinpochehelpedme" at fault there. It is rather further evidence of the way Peter Young does not teach compassion. Peter Young's need to inflict aggression and violence alongside his "care" is very clear from her description. "but it's not abusive as far as I remember. I
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On the previous page two persons identifying as former students of PY wrote: Re: Lama dondrup Dorje / Peter Young FAKE Posted by: Dondrup is powerhungry imposter. Date: May 28, 2018 12:05AM QuoteI hope you are now completely free of his mindcontrol games! This people still chasing after me, EXACTLY! Feeling SUPERIOR! CONSTANTLY amitofu’ing me, probably even REALLY THINK they are somehow
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The final point I thought was worth raising is Peter Young’s use of the title “Rinpoche”. Peter Young will say he doesn’t use it, that it is his students who insist on calling him that, in exactly the way you do here. The thing is, by allowing, and passively encouraging (which I’ve seen him do), his students to call him Rinpoche, he is once again proving his lack of respect for, and underst
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Hi, First off, I totally respect your journey, and the part you feel Peter Young played in it. Overall, I think there’s a few things that are important to note, because I agree with much of what you say, but see it in a different context: 1. Drill sergeants behave the way they do in order to program their soldiers into certain behaviours. Teachers behave differently, because they are
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Hi, I'm a previous student of PY but I have to say I feel very sad that you have had a bad experience as I never did and would like to stand up for him in case other people miss the opportunity to meet him because of this forum. I met Rinpoche, when he went by the name Sifu about 15 years ago. By the sounds of it he has stayed true to his personality, which is kind of like a drill s
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Small suggestion: When you get a medical check up, tell your physician what you've been through and name your abuser. Make it clear others have been harmed, are scared to speak out and some report feeling terrified and suicidal. If more of us describe this to physicians, dentists and other health care providers this educates them. A battering relationship is a battering rel
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Hi dear Friend, I do understand you, and your frustration. Yes, the reason I am putting more information on the web is to help you and everyone else who has been damaged by Peter Young. I'm glad it's helping. Namdroling: The Buddhist hierarchy are proven to be totally unwilling to self-police. This is partly cultural, and partly self-interest. There are many proven cases
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Keep talking Keep talking... In so glad you are doing so. I am being continuously assaulted in my energy field.. some kind of black magic or astral travel and abuse they are doing. Maybe voodoo. But anyway, them extracting my life-force from me. Fucking assholes. I need a fucking withdoctor this is crazy. This man should be burned for his withcraft. Its costing me to miss many appo
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Other facts about Peter Young (PY) that show who is really is: 1. PY teaches that fear is the opposite of hope. The Dalai Lama says that hope is very important. So do all other authentic spiritual authorities. PY teaches his students to therefore abandon hope if they wish to free themselves from fear. PY does this deliberately to depress the emotional and mental states of his students, to
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To help anyone who still fears Peter Young, I thought it might be helpful to give more insight into Peter Young’s fundamental emotional and psychological weakness. I hope this shows why he should be pitied, not feared. And also why he should be avoided. Peter Young himself recounted the story that one of his teachers told him, over 25 years ago, to forgive his father. His response was to
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Hi Dondrup is powerhungry imposter, I understand. Please, please find some emotional, moral and spiritual support near you. It genuinely helps the deprogramming process, and getting back to a firm sense of reality. This is super important, because all cult leaders work by destabilising a person's sense of reality. Building a good sense of positive stability in yourself is a real
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I’ve got some bad news. The guy has been enabled to improve his ability to psychicly, actually SPIRITUALLLY-psychicly abuse people. He was already able of astral stuff, But few years ago i made him aware of an ancient practice that has drasticly increased the spiritual abolities and the black magic practices. Yes i’ve been close to suicide, and still consider it sonetimes. But as thi
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Thank you again Corboy, I agree with everything you've said here. Your good sense, obvious experience, and care, is heartening. Truly. I've experienced and witnessed every single element detailed in your post. I've thought about getting a veteran's group together, but the difficulty is PY has been clever enough to make everyone in the group mistrust each other, even
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In case this is helpful, there's an article written by someone from LinkedIn describing what to do with persons who take more than their fair share - what she calls users and moochers. When you are up for it, you can list all the things you gave to PY and then note using a plus or minus sign, what he did give back to you in fair return -- and what he did not give back. 10 Tips for D
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Dear anon27: If even a few veterans of PY form a mate's group of mutual support, that will make a tremendous difference. There are things only another combat veteran can fully understand. Its not just saying the right words after you've spoken or written. It is those shared silences of mutual recognition. Human beings are social creatures. We cannot stay contented, sane and
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To Dondrup is powerhungry imposter: I'm so sorry you've been through this too. 11 - You've experienced it, so I don't know what I can add. 23 - Peter Young (PY) spent several years ingratiating himself with Penor Rinpoche, using guile, money and favours to those in Penor Rinpoche's (PR) inner circle. The culmination of this was being awarded robes. PY is excepti
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Thank you so much for this update Corboy. Yes, it was that same Penor Rinpoche who "ordained" Peter Young. I didn't know about Catherine Zeoli Burroughs. I more than agree about Steven Segal, but hadn't identified the pattern you've shown here. Thank you for pointing this out. I have contacted Namdroling, Palyul / Nyingma, and the office of the Dalai Lama about Pe
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Welcome to CEI message board. Take care of yourself. You're like an escaped POW. Cults Inside Out by Rick ROss may be very helpful. It is very tempting to be down on oneself for getting involved with an abusive lama, guru, etc. * You were NOT told what you'd be in. These people usually wait until you are emotionally and socially invested before they show their true colo
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Hello my friend! I’m so happy i am not the only one anymore that realises this to be true!!!! I have EXACTLY the SAME observation. Sooner or later i’ll add some more! I hope you are now completely free of his mindcontrol games! This people still chasing after me, EXACTLY! Feeling SUPERIOR! CONSTANTLY amitofu’ing me, probably even REALLY THINK they are somehow helping me? Even though
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For many years I was Peter Young’s (“lama” Dondrup Dorje) loyal student. My opinion is the following: 1. He is a very dangerous, highly educated, exceptionally skilful, narcissist. 2. Pathgate Institute is definitely a cult. It has zero endorsement from the real Buddhist community. 3. He has developed extraordinary personal power through martial arts, esoteric practices, and long- t
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For many years I was Peter Young’s (“lama” Dondrup Dorje) loyal student. My opinion is the following: 1. He is a very dangerous, highly educated, exceptionally skilful, narcissist. 2. Pathgate Institute is definitely a cult. It has zero endorsement from the real Buddhist community. 3. He has developed extraordinary personal power through martial arts, esoteric practices, and long-term pract
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My personal experience with Peter Young (Lama Dondrup Dorje) is that he is extremely manipulative and abusive. Apparently he gets some sense of pleasure from conrolling other people. He is not a real Lama, rather the opposite. Demon would be a better title for him. Stay away from him is my advice, He has nothing good to offer.
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My Personal experience with Peter Young ("Lama Dondrup Dorje") is that he is highly manipulative and abusive. Apparently he gets a sense of pleasure by being in control of other people. He is not a real Lama. Demon would be a proper title for him. Stay away from him is my advice, he has nothing good to offer.
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Hi all. I have been to Lama Dondrup Dorje's retreat before and know many who have attended. It has changed my life for the better. Since going, my relationships with my family and friends and colleagues has improved, I am more at peace with myself and I am a happier and healthier person. I have witnessed other people's lives improving from meeting Lama Dondrup Dorje in similar ways. I h
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Here are the key questions, which thus far 'Padma Gonpo has been unwilling or unable to address: 1). Paul McDowell, known possibly as ‘Padma Gonpo’ (and reportedly also as ‘Lama Paul’) has stated that he studied under “Yongedn Urgyen Dondrup (the transliterated Tibetan name is actually Yongden, not as written by ‘PG’) in Yokohama, Japan in 1968“. In order to corroborate this claim woul
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[I wanted to establish some facts, about the 'individual' calling himself 'Padma Gonpo', as all I had to go on initially were the claims featured in his communications to me (1st and 9th January 2007) These first 'details' were included in an unsigned email (dated 01/01/08) "Padma Gonpo began bon (sic) study under Yongedn (sic) Urgyen Dondrup in Yokohama Japa
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