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2 years ago
anon27
A very interesting article here: Scientists identify the "dark core" of personalilty. This "dark core" of personality is perfectly illustrated by Peter Young. Egoism, Machiavellianism, narcissism, psychopathy, sadism, spitefulness ... are among the traits that stand for the malevolent dark sides of human personality. ... these traits share a common 'dark core'
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
anon27
These examples from "On Cults and Authoritarian control, the Guru Papers", are precisely how Peter Young's cult Pathgate functions: "Surrendering to a guru brings instant intimacy with all who share the same values. ... This opening consequently increases the emotional content of one’s life, bringing purpose, meaning, and hope. ... But this quick, one-dimensional bondin
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
anon27
This is a revealing article excerpted from Prophetic Charisma: From the stories I've heard Peter Young tell about himself, this article about how and why people become "gurus", describes him accurately. Those who read it will understand, scientifically, precisely why to some people it really looks like PY has metanormal abilities ... and that they are fake. A few excerpts:
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
anon27
A couple of quotes highly relevant to the Pathgate cult from this webpage on The Difficulties of Emerging from a Cult: "If they have to start thinking for themselves they will have to deal not only with the pain they ran away from in the first place, but also the realization that they were being manipulated and abused by Castaneda for years as well." I had to overcome this diffi
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
anon27
Corboy notes on another forum that research shows how abusers get inside the heads of their victims: A destructive mode of projective identification is delineated: a predator's catastrophic attack calculated to cause the victim a stress disorder marked by a disarrayed identity. This discomposure enables the perpetrator to aggrandize a manifold inroad upon the victim's identity to imp
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
anon27
This is a recent article from The Guardian on a yoga school that was a front for the predator who set himself up as a teacher to abuse his students: What's interesting is that the following quotes are exactly what Peter Young does in his cult: “When they said “no”, the women claim Tarcau would say “I know what’s best for you”, before forcing himself on them.” “... many complaina
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
anon27
Thank you RRmoderator. I say this in response to Udumbara, but really it's for everyone to see how these sorts of statements are so easily exposed for what they are: I know about Energy. Everything I have seen in his videos teaches all there is to know about Energy - how to create it and how to use it. By saying this, it is clear you do not know about energy. What you think you kno
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
rrmoderator
Udumbara: Please don't engage in victim bashing here. If you are intent upon becoming a disciple and risking harm that's your choice, but attempting to dismiss the first-hand accounts of others may make you feel good about your choices, but it serves no useful purpose here.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
Dondrup is powerhungry imposter
My body, nearly NEVER smells. And if it does, it is not really a bad smell. Very uncommon, every now and than i would have a bit a stronger smell. Right now i smell moldy, because this people reversed a lot in my body. And DESTROYED things in my body. Organs, systems.... And screw things stuck to the body! So better i do not eat! Fucking assholes. They do a lot of stuff to control, tr
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
Dondrup is powerhungry imposter
Hello friend, I myself am not saying he can not do it. But i know how this works. I was one who was doing all this very fast, my energy was quite strong at certain moments. I even introduced to them a new practice. Sungazing. This is what they used to increase their own power very fast. This people have learnt a LOT from me, because i understood these mechanics and energy works very fa
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
Udumbara
Dear Gentleman and Ladies, if there are any among you. I have read, with great interest, your comments and complaints about Lama Dundrop Dorje ... I do not know this monk. I have never met him but I have seen a couple of his videos and, although I know nothing about the Venerable, I know about Energy. Everything I have seen in his videos teaches all there is to know about Energy - how to creat
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
anon27
It is often very difficult to accept an abusive cult leader is fake. One of the important steps in freeing oneself from their influence is to accept they are abusive. Here is there clear proof Peter Young is a dangerous fraud: 1. The Buddhist authorities refuse to acknowledge Peter Young. He claims to be endorsed by them. He is not. 2. Peter Young claims to understand Buddhis
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
Dondrup is powerhungry imposter
But friend... could you keep your mouth shut about my last enail for a while? It is for what my health concerns. Allow me to deeply reflect upon the truth of all things a bit more before you post it. Besides, i see some mistakes in your logic about him and his teachings now and than.. Would you like me to correct you? About the email adresses btw, that could be because i was sending
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
anon27
Interestingly, since this thread was started and notified to groups linked to Pathgate, Peter Young has removed from the web all the email contacts of its groups around the world (including on their own websites). All contact must now go through the central hub in UK, clearly for the purpose of censorship. This is because: Peter Young knows his lies are so weak that he can't take the ri
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
anon27
More of the text referred to above on Peter Young's organisation "Pathgate" "... 'maximum' on the Group Psychological Abuse Scale, characterized by absolutely indefensible misbehavior and violation of the common vows of Vajrayana Buddhism. ... represents a clear and present danger to its membership, and to society at large. ... ... characterized by fundament
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
anon27
Another website worth looking at: Samples: 1. "Does anybody here have experience of the Pathgate Institute of Buddhist Studies in Newcastle, UK? ... I ask because I took refuge with the teacher there, Lama Dondrup Dorje, several years ago, and only recently have begun coming across many suggestions and reports that the Institute is not genuine, that Rinpoche hasn't b
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
anon27
I've found a few more websites with views on Peter Young: 1. Sample: "My personal view is Young is a dangerous person, who seeks to manipulate vunerable young people into following him in a manner very similar to a cult. I watched the way the students at his then club bowed and scraped around him and how he clearly expected this. There is no need for any legitimate master to d
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
anon27
The simple objective proof that Peter Young is not who presents himself to be is this: Peter Young claims to be able to teach Tibetan Buddhism at a very high level. Yet he mis-teaches the Buddha’s most basic instructions. Here is the evidence: Dr Robert Thurman is recognised by both Tibetan and Western practitioners of Tibetan Buddhism as one of the foremost scholars and translators, an
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
Dondrup is powerhungry imposter
Im in the first 7 minutes now.. Have felt earth element and water and wind elements dissolve already, and its going very fast from here. This is an experience i envy ALL sentient beings! For you will bit by bit, lose ALL skills. From ordinary to “extra-ordinary”. I have felt the powers of grounding, wind and the wisdoms coming with it. And i hope all will experience this for themse
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
Dondrup is powerhungry imposter
Guys, I am dying. And am completely certain about it! That is what is happening to me. I am experiencing what is described in the Tibetan DYING PROCESS! So can we do one thing together please? Remove this topic. You can keep the material, but i think its best to get this offline. I know “who is doong this to me”, but i think one of the main important causes is this! As i explained
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
corboy
Recovery advice: Do not isolate. Spend time in groups of people doing ordinary things, groups where fear does not rule. You may begin to feel less afraid. You were harmed in the context of a diseased community. You lived in a community that was assembled,created by PY, a community of scared people. Domineering types such as PY is reported to be create groups biased towards fear.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
anon27
One other very important point to note occurred to me: "... and yes I left Newcastle at one point feeling like a shitty person. The purpose of a spiritual journey is to wake up right? Well, I needed to see that I was being a shitty person at that time and Rinpoche helped me to do that." Yes the point of a spiritual journey is to wake up. It is to wake up to the fact that each of
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
anon27
Hi, Again, I understand, and in many ways agree with what you say, but again the context is important to understand when looking at PY’s behaviour. If it’s OK I’ll just pick out a couple of examples: “Rinpoche NEVER invited me to become a nun, he just said the obvious which was that there is a fast track and a not so fast track.” Him getting you to believe there is a fast track and no
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
Rinpochehelpedme
Just to add to the dutch guy, that i’m sorry if I come across insensitive, I really don’t mean to. It’s very difficult to articulate on here and i’m not the most skilled writer. I do hope you are ok, and to anyone who is feeling hurt or used, i’m so sorry for you that you have had that experience.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
Rinpochehelpedme
Hi, I didn't see anything about suicidal thoughts, so please don't try to taint my character by suggesting I don't have empathy towards anyone who feels hurt. I wrote that I am sorry that some people have had bad experiences as mine was not. I saw something about someone feeling that they were attacked psychically but didnt see the word suicide. I went to Rinpoche at a time w
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
anon27
Thanks Corboy, you raise a very important point. The thing is, I don't hold "rinpochehelpedme" at fault there. It is rather further evidence of the way Peter Young does not teach compassion. Peter Young's need to inflict aggression and violence alongside his "care" is very clear from her description. "but it's not abusive as far as I remember. I
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
corboy
On the previous page two persons identifying as former students of PY wrote: Re: Lama dondrup Dorje / Peter Young FAKE Posted by: Dondrup is powerhungry imposter. Date: May 28, 2018 12:05AM QuoteI hope you are now completely free of his mindcontrol games! This people still chasing after me, EXACTLY! Feeling SUPERIOR! CONSTANTLY amitofu’ing me, probably even REALLY THINK they are somehow
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
anon27
The final point I thought was worth raising is Peter Young’s use of the title “Rinpoche”. Peter Young will say he doesn’t use it, that it is his students who insist on calling him that, in exactly the way you do here. The thing is, by allowing, and passively encouraging (which I’ve seen him do), his students to call him Rinpoche, he is once again proving his lack of respect for, and underst
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
anon27
Hi, First off, I totally respect your journey, and the part you feel Peter Young played in it. Overall, I think there’s a few things that are important to note, because I agree with much of what you say, but see it in a different context: 1. Drill sergeants behave the way they do in order to program their soldiers into certain behaviours. Teachers behave differently, because they are
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
Rinpochehelpedme
Hi, I'm a previous student of PY but I have to say I feel very sad that you have had a bad experience as I never did and would like to stand up for him in case other people miss the opportunity to meet him because of this forum. I met Rinpoche, when he went by the name Sifu about 15 years ago. By the sounds of it he has stayed true to his personality, which is kind of like a drill s
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