Not a chance would she stop doing that, or something similar, BK wouldn't let that stop her. There were a number of cases in the past shown in this thread, where followers of Byron Katie have killed themselves, or other incidents. John Wayne Dulaney Byron Katie Hotline facilitator Rochelle Laudenslager and the murder case There were other very suspicious cases brought up, where
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Ching Hai sounds a lot like Byron Katie in that one. Byron Katie and modern western Gurus, know they have to market themselves as seeming like anti-guru's, at the same time they are implying they are enlightened beings and walk-in Spirits. They talk out of both sides of their mouth at once, its deliberate. In the west, you can't just say I AM GOD anymore, people don't buy it.
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As well, these days every Guru says they have achieved some sort of perfect enlightenment. That is the oldest trick in the book. They all make that claim, Werner Erhard, Byron Katie, Eckhart Tolle, Ka-Ching Hai, the list is infinite. Why do they do it? PAIN. The pain of the human condition. And the Gurus know human do far more to avoid pain, than gain pleasure. So the Guru claims with
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The self-centeredness of followers of various New Wage gurus is without limit. Is it always about you? Is it possible to look beyond your own self? Guy Finley constantly talks about lowering your fear triggers, just like Byron Katie. They don't do this to help you, they do this to make people feel more "safe" around the Guru, so they ignore their doubts about the Guru. Why
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Below are some real reviews of this book, from people who happen to be bird lovers who bought the book. The thing the average person doesn't understand, is that Ching Hai is not "crazy". Doing weird things like putting birds in fur coats, and having them talk gibberish, is believe it or, a technique that can be used. Its actually a very sophisticated subject, and clearly Ms Chi
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And you have to shake your head. Will Tuttle is saying this is nothing like a cultish group?? In the next breath he is talking about Supreme Master Ching Hai. Its not enough for Ching Hai to be your Master. She wants to be your Supreme Master. Now of course every one of these groups these days tries to fudge that, and try and make it sound like "God" is the Supreme Master...(later
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When these sects get people to meditate, and chant for hours certain phrases EVERYDAY, that is very powerful mental conditioning. (brainwashing, if you will) Because no matter the phrase, the people are thinking about Ching Hai, or have her pictures they are looking at or imagining. One lady said Ching Hai "visits" her in meditation. That is the Sai Baba trick, you tell people you
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Interesting about the Loving Hut franchise. Again, it shows how clever Ching Hai is. Because if a follower is going to go so far to dump all that money into a restaurant, then of course they are going to buy her special imported food. As they believe in her, and would obviously believe the food is blessed, or whatever, and specially made, and not contaminated like the rest of the worlds food, et
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It is comical, but its serious as real people are getting hurt, and are going to get hurt by this Ching Hai system. And sadly the average person has NO CLUE of what Ms Ching Hai is up to with this. She is a very smart cookie, actually. Very clever, and media savvy, and she understands mass persuasion. All of this "weird" stuff has been covered in other threads, its a technique. And i
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Daisaku Ikeda is a sick man. Not physically, sounds like he's been healthy like an ox. But sick in the head. The list of lies from this man would fix a textbook. And his persecution stuff, that also seems to be a way to try and manufacture sympathy from his followers. Other gurus fake getting illnesses, like faking cancer, to deflect away from their illegal, immoral and criminal acti
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Just now in the news, Scientology is getting busted for using "slave labor". Search Google news for: scientology slave labor Well guess what? The Byron Katie seminars, and the James Ray seminars, also used "unpaid labor" and also charge people for the privilege of working at their LGAT seminars. When people work at a Byron Katie seminar with the label "Staff"
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Those comments made about the Holocaust quoted in these threads, should be reported to those who investigate those issues. And the Turnaround events, yes, its meant to turn-your-cash around, and put it into the pockets of BKI Inc. Why else would they charge all those people 20K, which is about $1000 a day? And remember, the ticket price is only the entrance fee. If folks have family money
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QuoteStoicIts looking good for the expert testimony on 'persuasion and influence' techniques: One hopes people can see how incredibly SERIOUS this is becoming. Right in the document above on the second page, they are talking about the nature of FREE WILL and persuasion, and human agency. This is what it is all about. "mere words" This is what James Ray, Byron Kat
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Long ago, someone counted all the Eckhart Tolle products, and there were dozens of them. Now there are more than that, there look to be hundreds. And ET also is selling "retreats" which are meant to lure people to locations for that, where the upselling continues. ET is selling almost as many things as Walmart, and more than McDonalds! McDonalds only sells a few dozen things, Eckha
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There are other threads going into great detail about the SCAMOLAS being run by Eckhart Tolle. The guys a salesman. and its false about the ET events. He has events, but not as many live events as BK, because obviously ET doesn't like "people" in the personal sense. He wants to set up a detached system, where you buy his DVD's and watch ET-TV as a group, so those are o
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Like any professional hypnotic-entertainer, Byron Katie is using the SPARKLY EYE technique, to find those who are most suggestible in her primed audience. Its very easy to do, for an experienced professional performer like Byron Katie. She is able to Anchor her EYE-GAZE, and find those whose eyes are the most bugged-out. Some of those she will target later with a HUG or even a "touch"
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From time to time, things "flame" up a bit. In the Byron Katie thread, sometimes innocent sounding comments got flamed a bit, as some people had been trolling the thread trying to play mind-games with people. But sometimes people are totally new to understanding New Age trickery, and it takes a long time to figure out what is happening.
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Byron Katie does tons of her fake Love-Bombing. Her seminars are literally Love-Bombing incarnate, from all of the BK followers. Many people are love-starved, and that is the best way to hook them in.
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Another topic is Dissociation. A type of extreme detachment, dissociation and numbness has been reported by many people involved with the Byron Katie material.
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It looks like that is more for selling potions, and stuff like that. Byron Katie is an LGAT seminar saleswoman, that is where she makes the big money. But if they are making medical claims, without a license, they can get into trouble. If they are doing psychotherapy without a license, they can get into trouble. So instead, they just SELL stuff, like so-called "coaching". The
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Its easier to make the thread function, by using the SEARCH function at the top right, with the relevant keywords.
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Getting Tolle out of one's brain, is pretty much the same process as getting Byron Katie out of one's brain. BK and Tolle use very similar techniques on people. Byron Katie might actually be worse, but of course each person responds differently. Check out that thread, and try using those techniques on the mental constructs created by the Tolle processes. IDEAS on how to KICK-OUT (E
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In terms of PTSD, people should be extremely careful, with any treatment, even those which are licensed. Unlicensed interventions by untrained Quacks and New Wagers, can be extremely dangerous, and even lethal, resulting in suicides. Read their own waivers, which talk of the risk of DEATH in their "death clauses". THE SCHOOL FOR THE WORK WITH BYRON KATIE RELEASE OF LIABILITY
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The Byron Katie prison stuff, has been shown to simply be a PR marketing exercise. The BKI people pay themselves out of their tax-benefit foundation to attend the prison to "coach", and then they distribute their books and DVD's, bought at retail value from their own company! Sweet deal for BKI, they get it going and coming. Check out their IRS 990 forms. Byron Katie (the W
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IDEAS on how to KICK-OUT byron katie from your Mind-Soul-Life forever
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QUOTE: "Boredom narrows your vision and restricts the freedom of your mind to think" (Erickson and Rossi, 1979, p 340) "Often with highly sophisticated subjects you resort to uninteresting detail to bore the hell out of them" (Erickson, Rossi & Rossi, 1976, p 240)
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Inducing BOREDOM is a technique in hypnosis, like inducing confusion. Many of them have talked how in conventional church through repetition of material, people go into a Trance. Same with many rituals. So boring the shit out of you, is a way to put you into a suggestible state of "hypnosis" which just means you are more open to accept their Suggestions. Then they give suggestions to
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Its so predictable that Werner Erhard followers and devotees try to rewrite and fabricate history, to try and claim that Werner Erhard invented everything since sliced-bread. In fact, Werner was just a salesman, who copied and stole other people's stuff. A case could be made that in fact Scientology was the founder of this manipulative sham of "coaching" which is really just on
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There are many excellent CBT licensed psychologists/psychiatrists out there. They charge an hourly rate, either through insurance, or a sliding scale. They don't tell people they will achieve Enlightenment, the goals are more modest, and actually achievable. But there are also plenty of money-hungry "docs" in the world too. So having discretion is very important. But there a
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