Quotejust-googlingQuoteDharamRakshak We have been taught that in the face of opposition, besides cutting out someone's tongue (yes it does say this in the Scripture) that we should either walk away to prevent hearing the offences and having our own consciousness effected or that we should defeat the offender with rational and correct argument. In this day and age, cutting out someone
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I actually thought that Sasha Baron Cohen (Borat) incorperated a lot of Icke's ideas into his movie. 1 Shapeshifting Paranoia 2 Leading a crowd of cowboys on at a rodeo with "I hope that George Bush will personally drink the blood of every man, woman and child in Iraq" followed by "YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHH!"(the crowd) 3 following that up with "I hope
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I second that
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I'll always love you, too.
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zelig, I said ACID said the stuff about indegenous people (I put his name in brackets, could be unclear), I meant you just showed up and started making all the same weak jabs at David that everyone else does. I think these reactions/actions are based on the most superficial interaction with his work, usually just based on hearing that he talks about reptilian humanoid creatures. Zelig, are
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nice
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Another armchair quarterback. I don't know that there is truth to these reptilian accounts, but I feel pretty confident that it is far better to be open to information. I feel as though I have learned so much from my interaction with Ickes work, Credos work, etc... Acid, zelig, too, You guys just rush in to rip it down, you rip down Credo Mutwa (Acid) based on nothing but your litt
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QuoteAcid ReindeerQuoteRama Das (slave name)After the book "the Biggest Secret" came out, David Icke was contacted by a man from Africa named Credo Mutwa who is a Zulu Sanusi, an initiate into the shamanistic knowledge of the Zulu people. so? tribal initiation doesn't make you infallible. a few years ago I heard a woman intitiated into an amerindian tradition explain in all
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zelig said: "1.) Having Chris as your personal guru is like having a magic 8 ball with all the answers for every aspect of your life! No longer will you experience the discomfort of "thinking" ever again!" It is true, but the 8-ball is a piece of sh*t with only one possible answer. I got a copy of the "puke-head" lecture from cultreporter. It is so twiste
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"I am the serpent's head and I must be severed Nothing for me but their cold hard gaze My heart welcomes death's warm embrace I take my place on the throne of Martyrs and Sinners Martyrs and Sinners " ... "I am the serpent's head and I have been severed" - Dead To Fall Perhaps there should be some kind of reptilian protection agency... I don
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QuotezeligThe whole guru business is a racket. It's a moot point about whether Siddha was considered bonafide or not by ACB. Both of their philosophies play out very badly for western followers and their children. They are both cults, bearing the full weight and meaning that word implies. Yes, absolutely. This belief system is designed to have people like Siddha ruling over (ideally)
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I thought this was cool, it is Jon Ronson discussing the "Bilderberg Group" on CNN. I would imagine that David Icke, among others, would have been a major factor in this man educating himself on the subject.
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I really liked Jon Ronson's documentary on David Icke. I think he also has one on Alex Jones that I have not seen (I just found it) Kath, I think you would like it, protesters dress up as lizards and throw pies at David Icke. Secret Rulers of the World - The Satanic Shadowy Elite? I believe focuses on Alex Jones.
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David Icke never claimed to have seen reptilian beings himself, he has never said he had pictures or anything. What he puts forward are eyewitness accounts from many different sources. His book "Children of the Matrix" took a look into how many ancient traditions speak of these beings, or may at least seem to. The Vedic texts of India are perhaps some of the most depictive, they
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"In fact if you go deeply enough into the genealogical research you will find that ALL the presidents are from this line. Genealogical sources, like the New England Historical Genealogical Society and Burkes Peerage, have shown that 33 of the 42 presidents to Clinton are related to Charlemagne and 19 are related to England's Edward III, both of whom are of this bloodline. A spokesman fo
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QuoteThe AnticultOne of the ways out of the cult and LGAT mental traps, is to practice very precise and careful "reality testing". That is using the mental tools of Critical Thinking, skeptical analysis, and the scientific method. That means taking any "theory" and subjecting it to the most rigorous factual analysis avaliable. That is an entire study in itself. Do this wi
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Hey, Dharam, I think it is cool that you wanted to post here. Thanks.
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To say that he did just invent it all is grounded in less research and understanding than anything Icke has ever done.
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You speak as if the things in his books are just pure fiction, like he completely invented all of it. Not that they are true, they are the result of gathering much information from many different people and sources. The stuff about baby eating and all that is from various people telling him very similar stories. Of course David Icke is an easy target, but unfortunately the rest of his wo
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I think David Icke is rad as hell. Read those books, read the hell out of those books. If you subtract the reptillian aspect from his books, you have some very serious and compelling stuff. Alex Jones said that his research on and analysis of the Illuminati, the globalists, 9/11 and all the behind the scenes connections of seemingly unconnected political and powerfull organisations is secon
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"Ha ha ha! Oh, hands up all the heterosexual males on the forum who have a strange, unfamiliar gay man turn up to clean your house every time you are feeling down." well, no, but maybee we could put our names on some list? Seems like a good deal.
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Quotequotesmanyo Rama, Sorry to hear about westside. That was the best vegetarian food in the whole state of Hawaii when your mum was the head cook. Your mum is one of the best cooks I ever met. They finally gave in to Siddha's demands??? Yea that sucks big time...the DTE really neocon type uniforms and over-managment. Damn dude that sucks, and all in the name of Krishna, that r
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QuoteJoe KQuoteRama Das (slave name)congratulations on knowing everythingWow, in the absence of counter-arguments we are resorting to flaming. Kath was simply expressing her opinions, as the people arguing against FMS here have certainly felt free to do. No, I was just too tired. Tired and bummed out by her response.
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Joe K wrote: "Often" isn't good enough. Again, the judge has absolutely no way to tell if a memory is confabulated or not when it is the "victim's" word against the accused's, as is often the case. If there is other evidence supporting the "victim's" claims, then that other evidence should be considered of course. But in the absence of other evid
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The research into this is out there, but to actually come into contact with the work of someone who is ACTIVELY INVESTIGATING the claims of victims would involve entering the "independent" arena.
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kath, I totally feel like you were being overly dismissive... For one, to claim that "All research into SRA has proven it to be non existent" and supply that website, clearly shows you have very scant understanding of the issue. A very large body of research suggests that this IS happening, many, many people claim to have had such experiences. Many more since the dated research o
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congratulations on knowing everything
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cultreporter... awesome, thanks.
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Thanks a lot for your input, Anticult, I appreciate it.
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Joe K I would agree, maybee we cannot rely on these recovered memories. Whether or not the memory is acurate, if the abuse happened, it happened. Maybee the recovered memories are flawed, but would it not stand to reason that they could be at least fairly acurate, and if there are so many corroborating similar experiences that this is very loudly pointing to this possibly going on? If
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