Group work. I only began to get a handle on how crazy my family was when I began attending a group for adult children of alcoholics. Later, getting involved at a Zen practice center helped. What you want are situations where you can associate with people who are either 1) being honest or 2) working as sincerely as they can to become honest. That gives you a standard of comparison by which you
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resembles the pattern used in TM (Transcendental Meditation) (for more info go to www.factnet.org) People are taken through a ritual that puts them in a trance and given a mantra (a slogan to repeat during twice daily personal meditation sessions). The mantra maintains and deepens the trance. Over time, many TM practitioners start spacing out, get anxiety reactions. All mental heal
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I have not been thru LGATs, GC and Hope. So I needed the reminder that many survivors have meme trigger problems that can disrupt concentration. The meme posts were long partly because I was quoting large sections from articles by other people (Blackmore and Dawkins.) Will see about doing the following when I write future posts: 1) Use simple declarative sentences more frequently instead
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I just got back from a 7 day Zen retreat, and am rather punchy from lack of sleep. It was great. Your posts look fascinating. I want to read them after I get some sleep so I can give it my quality attention. Guy, you said my posts can be difficult to read because your old memes get re-triggered and it affects your ability to read and remember certain information. You said my posts were diff
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No, Elena, I never heard of THAT one. Inflicting massive trauma as a means to enlightenment is sometimes passed off as a legitimate form of teaching--but IMO is more likely to leave the recipient with a whole new set of scars on top of whatever they started with. The scary thing is, the poor guy probably had to PAY for the whole miserable weekend in which the shit was piled on him. Wonder
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you can read it here For every group, this site includes the official website of the group, if available, along with critical information. High demand, authoritarian groups often try to shield their members from information or social contacts that undermine their doctrine, training methods and long term agendas. By contrast, RR.com has a site 'The Hall of Flames' where pe
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with lots of people, was asked intrusive, personal questions by total strangers, got called an asshole, a cold hearted ****, and many more ghastly names than those. Best thing is, I didnt have to pay a dime to go through any this. I was so clever that someone paid ME to do it! Learned all about my shit, my hang ups, my 'racket', other people's 'rackets'--and I got
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Be careful about curiousity--just like glittering lures for fish, it can be used against us. I used to patronize a bicycle shop where one of the mechanics was a former biker. His gang had been like the Hell's Angels, but more obscure. One day, it was warm and X had his shirt sleeves rolled up, displaying a veritable gallery of tattoos. I pointed to one of them and asked, 'What
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Its very possible. We are finding out that people who are already infected with certain micro-organisms are more likely to become infected with virulent micro-organisms. I am not a Christian and had no bone to pick with the 'New Age', but recently began to wonder whether certain mental habits that are common in New Age circles make people more vulnerable to induction into destructive
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Dear PJ this article is about an entirely different group than the one your sister is in. But it has some highly insightful observations that could perhaps tie in with what you have described of your sister's behavior in relation to Weston Jolly 'Like many other religious and/or New Age movements, IYI often attracts people that are drifting, stressed out and/or unhappy about thei
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From "Viruses of the Mind' by Dawkins, a contributor to meme theory. Dawkins wrote with some asperity for he'd found that his ex-wife sent their 6 year old daughter for Roman Catholic instruction without her father's knowledge or consent. Dawkins used Catholicism as an example of a memetic 'virus of the mind'. Roman Catholics and devout Christians will probabl
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I could not yet find the U R Being Manipulated site but did find a collection of other items worth investigating. I included a citation for Dick Sutphen's very detailed article listing various methods of manipulation. A Discussion of The Delphi Technique General Overview of the Social Psychology of Manipulation [216.239.57.104] Dick Stuphen’s Battle For Your Mind
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even though you never officially joined. Here is a possible angle on what they are demanding of you--see if it fits: *Never showing any negative emotions at work, or in front of clients. This includes "being obviously quiet" There is a researcher named Paul Ekman who has spent over 20 years mapping the micro expressions of the human face the correspond to emotions. He can '
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'Never showing any negative emotions at work, or in front of clients. This includes "being obviously quiet" That's a recipe for a nervous breakdown right there. They may be trying trying to suck you in by 'sculpting' your behavior. By making you behave in all these ways, eventually this will shape your mind and emotions to their specifications. Its a well kn
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especially when you are under stress, trust someone, and were perhaps already in a subtle trance. When I protested, he softly answered that it wasn't a personal attack on me, it's just the way human beings are. His tone and manner made everything ok, but I know now my mind was struggling with an insult, yet was trying to understand. There's verbal content of a message and
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'deconditioning' by some. Timothy Leary the LSD guru believed that if people could be stripped of all (or most) of their prior conditioning, they could be re-programmed with better ways to live and eventually the whole human race would evolve. Stuff like this was big in the Sixties and still lingers today in various New Age venues. (See Gary Lachman's book 'Turn Off Your Mind-
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I have read through the testimonials of the unsatisfied participants and though the testimonials were rather enlightening they did seem a little devoid of the specific details relevant to my inquiry. go here ctyme.com/bwash/bwash.htm This article gives an amazing overview of various persuasion techniques.
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the Karma Commandos! Yes, I've fantasized about this. You'd want a cadre of persons trained in social psychology, meditation and who can withstand the stres of participating in these marathon sessions--so, very likely, they would need to be athletes. Someone could write a brilliant series of novels about this. I stink at writing fiction or I would give it a try.
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For a provocative paper that describes the theory behind what Guy Fawkes has been telling us, go to 'Welcome to the Meme Lab' and read the paper 'A Beginner's Guide to Memes' by Dr Susan Blackmore. It is best to read the paper before responding to the material on this post. Blackmore's paper is well written and can be understood by anyone who is interested i
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I can see why you're scared for your sister. WJ now knows via your e-mail that your sister is compromising her financial welfare and her loved ones are scared for her. Document everything. Consult a lawyer and consider sending WJ a registered letter. Otherwise he or his office staff could say they never got the e-mail. If a certain bar or nightclub generates too many brawls and sho
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(When doing a google search, dont forget to click the 'groups' tab and do a search of the various google listserves. Sometimes you'll get information that way. In this case, the only info I got was a very complimentary report). First, it is very possible that your sister is responding to someone who has some genuine ability to energize people, and foster a group environment wher
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I had a correspondance with a woman who had been friends with a professor in the psychology department at a prestigious state university. Her pal was recruited by an LGAT and when my informant refused to get involve with the LGAT, her friend dumped her. I appreciate your kind words. I'm not very good as a public speaker.
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Two former Cohen disciples, Andre van der Braak and Luna Tarlo have written memoirs, both of which have been reviewed on Amazon.com--both the US websites and the UK website. Based on his mother's memoir, (The Mother of God, Luna Tarlo) a new memoir by Andre Van Der Braak (Enlightenment Blues), reader reviews for both books on Amazon.com, and a profile on Cohen's community at . A po
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with Medjugordge. The issue is NOT whether the apparitions are real or not; people will believe what they want to believe. What is important is whether 1) the visionaries appear to have profited from their celebrity status, or have not. 2) Are visitors/pilgrims being encouraged to integrate their prayer life with their churches and relationships back home or are they being manipulated i
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of mine visited Medjugordge--a devotee who was more affluent paid for her to go. X returned with some residual skepticism, but was deeply moved by the 'atmosphere of holiness' she encountered among the visitors. Ive discovered that very powerful moods are engendred whenever a crowd of people assembles with a focused intention. I have had deep haunting emotions at the Vietnam Memor
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good luck to you. Key thing is try to stay in contact with him, and do what you can to keep him connected to activities that are genuinely agenda free, affectionate and FUN. I dont mean 'fun' in the frivolous sense. I mean genuine playfulness. The first thing lost in cult life is play. Cults are heavy duty and serious. Cultic groups and leaders suck energy and they resent anything
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Two other persons have queried us about Royal Way/Jacumba and have given some information about it. You can read it on (Apologies if this is a redundant post. I posted this info last night and it did not show up.) Groups that recruit selectively, discreetly as this one does can last for decades. They dont generate the publicity or piss legions of people off with obnoxious recruiting t
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if you go to this thread You will find information from two other persons who have asked about this group. You can e-mail Rick Ross and find out the best way to contact them, if they wish to be contacted. Royal Way has also been known as 'Jacumba'. Former members have had difficulty getting information because it seems to be such a discreet, esoteric group and recruits in a
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Mr. Fawkes: A lot of people are not familiar with LEC terminology but are concerned by how friends and loved ones have reportedly changed after participating in LEC events. When you have chance to do so could you give a list of basic LEC concepts and define them so non-LEC'rs can recognize this pattern of behavior? 1) What is misdirection and re-direction? Give examples and then te
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We have been hearing great things about you, Guy, thanks to material of yours that Elena has found on one of the Google listserves. WELCOME!!!! Now, my question: Does your group have special 'celebrity protocols' set up to accommodate ultra-desirable recruits who are mental health professionals, university professors, etc? (as well as the stray top-earning world famous movie star
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