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10 years ago
psyborgue
Dabcult, She has posted "solid accusations" already. Multiple times. Even in list form for those with reading comprehension issues. She has made it clear, from her experience, exactly what happened and detailed what she felt was wrong with what Guru G did. Your repeated insistence (bordering on harassment) that she post "solid" seem to be implying what happened to her w
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
psyborgue
Two people in my family were involved with the lay portion of LOC, known as Regnum Christi. Was it a cult? No, but it did have some cult-like elements. There was an emphasis on becoming a servant of sorts to the group and bringing others (particularly with political influence) into the fold. I'll hash it out here: 1. Control over communication/Milieu? No more than your average strict
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
psyborgue
Quotedabcult KIND A FREIGHTENING HOW YOU BRAINWASH YOURSELF IN THINKING " Grace and Light is truly the only salvation in this WORLD " Yes. I'm sure she "brainwashed herself". Perfectly reasonable explanation, especially from someone purporting to be a therapist who helps others deal with past cult trauma. Forgive me if I'm skeptical. Then again, as you say you
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
psyborgue
QuotedabcultIS YOUR INFO SHARE ...CAN YOU POSTE IT HERE PLEASE IF TRUTH THESES MIND GAMES ARE NOT VERY ENLIGHTEN You make it sound as if Diddly is making all this up. I've seen the posts on Swami G's facebook page with my own eyes. I'm not going to post the links here as I don't think it's fair to further publicize her unethical disclosures, but the fact is she has
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
psyborgue
Did people leave their families or friends for Swami G? Was it implied they were being held back spiritually by them or some-such? Again. I apologize if you've answered this already.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
psyborgue
It seems that most of her students are fairly well educated and, i'm assuming, fairly well off as a result. Would it be accurate to say that Swami G seeks out those with money? In other words, how is recruiting handled in her group? Are members are encouraged refer their friends and such? Are they given criteria to look for in recruits?
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
psyborgue
Diddly, I'm currently on page 15, and i'm reading this: Quotecorboy quoting Swami G from asram-annex.com Any taking Diksha SHOULD be sending in Monthly Donations as a way of honoring what is being given by Guru and as a way to aide in keeping a Community in place... Every spiritual tradition has this admonition of paying tithes - most say 10 % of your salary but here there is simp
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
psyborgue
How many people have left the group so far? How many out of those have chosen to speak out? I imagine it's not many, especially if she's prone to "out" people. I'm aware there is a tort for public revelation of private facts as well as other similar torts which might apply. She might be claiming that she can do whatever you want with your private information you gave
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
psyborgue
QuotedabcultULTIMATELY WE ALL HAVE TO BE IN CONTROL OF OUR OWN STATE OF MIND But we're not. As much as you might like to think we are, we're not. If we were, thought reform could not exist. Statements like this make me wonder whether you actually believe it does. Quotedabcult PUT IT ALL BACK ON PERSONAL RESPONSABILITY I could give a damn what some centuries old dead likely c
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
psyborgue
QuotedabcultAnd my main point is that lots of people get suck in into a cult because they do not think ...rethink ...analise ...make deep research on what they are going to get involve in . But research as shown that very rarely will an individual get caught twice in a cult .....and even more rare that they get involve deeply a third time. But a lot of times the information is just not
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
psyborgue
QuoteSwami GDo you really think i am in their homes and privy to what they are reading or not behind the scenes ? Well. I would respond that Swami G doesn't have to. All she has to do is to tell her followers that reading these things will make their heads explode and that'll do the trick. Hell. Scientology warned it's members that reading the leaked OTIII documents before th
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
psyborgue
Diddly, The group I was in did many similar things to what you're experiencing. After leaving the group and speaking out against it, I was labeled a sort of heretic, and things were said behind my back, and even in public, to make me look bad (some were true, some were not). I was also told that I would fail without the group and would never succeed on my own. When this prediction did
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
psyborgue
It appears the link I posted broke due to the forum's auto-formatting of urls. Try this link instead. I really should get a new domain for my website. Apple shut homepage.mac.com down a while ago and since then I've been relying on archive.org to do the hosting.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
psyborgue
I know a few people personally who went through Elan. Has anything more about the Michael Skakel trial been posted here? RIchard Ofshe testified for the defense. Long story short, the disclosure circle confession from inside the program was used in part to hang him in court. As I understand it, Ofshe argued (rightly) that because it was common for people to confess to things they didn't
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
psyborgue
Two differences: Time, and popularity. Just kidding. Mostly. One difference: cults disguise their agendas, having different levels of dogma, the core of which is only available to the most senior members. Religions put it all out in the open, meaning joining a religion is an informed decision. It's not deceptive. Another: Cults do not have to be religious in nature. There are politic
Forum: Coercive Persuasion and Undue Influence
10 years ago
psyborgue
Just because somebody is spiritual, charismatic, has followers, and is critical of major world religions does not make one a cult leader. Does he have a group with a totalist structure? Does his organization practice thought reform? What are the origins of the group? Those are the important questions. I'd also tend to think most people who "follow" him on Facebook do so becaus
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
psyborgue
The website with the most information about Benchmark Transitions, formerly Benchmark Young Adult School, is http://homepage.mac.com/psyborgue/index.html]here (full disclosure, it's my website, I was sued over this website, but I won). There is also a subforum of fornits.com dealing with Benchmark Transitions / Benchmark Yong adult School (click for link). Sadly, there hasn't been a l
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