RF, It's already been pointed out that there are so many variables why someone who is a victim of a sexual crime, doesn't feel they can face court. And, it's quite common knowledge that even if a victim did go to court it can be quite hard for them to see it through. One simply cannot pre-judge like this. You speak of vedanta, well, you've spoke of scripture. While eve
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This is a fantastic topic Heather. Kudos to you. And to Devon, and traveller99, but mostly to you for sure. Still reading. Massive respect. Earthquake.
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Quote'RF' > Quote'Earthquake' > > How do you know that Isvara hasnt gave you the > truth? And you asking a person claiming to be a > child rape victim to come out and go to court, in > actually degrading ways, is not you being so > neutral as you are now. > > I don't mean to be hurtful here. But there are > two sides to this. Heathe
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QuoteRF Russian Fatima Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thank you everyone for your replies. Will you interact directly with me here? Quote'RF' > > I've been into James Swartz for a few years and > have had nothing but positive experiences. I've > read his books, listened to his videos, read his > satsangs, a
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Hello RF, I don't wish you and I to get off on the wrong foot, can i begin with the caveat that your opinion has to be appreciated in this topic, and it's healthy for it to be heard. QuoteRF ------------------------------------------------------- > What this boils down to is that an anonymous > person wants me and others to condemn James > Swartz, but is not willin
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Hi Everyone, Ive been following the chat but not responding. Im going to respond fully to Russian Fatimas points when i post. Her opinion is important as much anyone. Can i point out something obvious,that it is not easy for victims of historical sex abuse to cone forward. Thats why it is historical. There are many interwoven reasons. And whether a person feels able to cope with police a
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Trav99, you and Heather have created this, and it's gathered a lot of momentum. Although this has been huge exposure, the internet is a big place. Isvara wanted this, else it wouldn't have happened. It is Isvara. It has to serve a purpose, though we can't have the perception of Isvara. JS and all seem quite quiet over all this. Which is curious. I guess, what i'm feeli
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I respect what the former SW staffer has to say. It's coming from a place of lvoe toward traveller99. And it is valid. However, it is quite acceptable to have the svadharma of a warrior. Svadharma is one's nature. So it is quite acceptable to challenge wrong behavior. Everything is Isvara. Which means, that heather's book and traveller99's topic, and both t99 (think te
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Quote'Corboy' > Well, some have said that in Hindu, Jain and > Buddhist India the reason to seek nondual > realization is not to engage more deeply in life > and the human condition. I can only speak for Vedanta, traditional vedanta. Vedanta is not about not engaging more deeply in life. What actually happens for the enlightened person, is that they able to carry on ev
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sahara71's point is good. Vedanta is for the benefit of humanity. Teaching Vedanta is about helping people. Vedanta teaches that one of the attributes of purna ananda, the limitless known from enlightenment, is the will to help the world. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sahara71's raises a good point also about people who feel th
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This is exactly right. Spiritual by-passing has this boring aspect. Its only partial assimilation of the knowledge needed for enlightenment. To be enlightened, one must know they are BRahman, and what that means in regard to life. As enlightenement may be about BRahmanm but its not for BRahman. Its for the human in samsara. Or, what appears to be samsara. To be enlightened the mind has to
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That was a fantastic write up Traveller99. The high command in ze Shiningworld are watching this topic. As are members. Ive let many know, haha. As well as another person here, I dont want to single them out unless they do. :) . The reason they arn't saying anything at the moment, is because they are trying to decide who it is here that is giving information. So the individual's
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Thankyou, Heather and Traveller99 for the information you keep providing us. Heather, what you have went through cuts so deep. I can honestly feel some of this in the profound way that you write. I can corroborate that JS is still like this. He drains peoples energy as cults will, by keeping them dependent on the cult. He 'awards' spiritual titles as they are somehow achievements, wh
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Yea, there are two teachings in Vedanta that seem on the face of it to be opposites: 1. Ajativada. That there is no creation. 2. Vivartavada. That creation is an effect. Both lead the person to understanding that no matter what way one looks at it, there only is Brahman. This is satya. That which is 'real'. Real means that which does not change and is not limited. What we
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Hi, I'm at an event tonight, but thought it worthwhile to post a few lines. Thankyou for sharing the chat between you and Heather. It shows the integrity of both of you. Heather is not being vindictive, this can be saw. She speaks facts. As does Traveller99. Im still gonna be careful what way I put things, but I can say, that Isabella has been instrumental in much nastiness l
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Heather, thankyou so much for talking to us here. I'm sure I speak for us all, we're really pleased, and we are all really supportive of what you have started. It's so beautiful that you have a good man beside you and children, I think? What happened to you was and is traumatic, without a doubt, but you have not let it destroy you. In fact, your book, your ordeal, so well spo
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Hello Everyone, Just a couple of things. In response to Heather wondering if there are any more victims, it seems hard to think there hasnt been. However, tbe more awareness that the world get's with her terrible experience, and this forum, the better it is. I can tell everyone, that this topic is gettjng watched by more and more members of Shiningworld, and Heather's book is al
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zizlz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > But I wonder if James' freedom is limited because > it's co-opted by a narcissistic ego that prides > itself on outsmarting everyone and everything, > even life itself. You see, when the ego sees > everything as unreal, that means karma is unreal > and the person is unreal. So there
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Sahara71 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > I was very disappointed to find a community of > people in the Neo-Advaita scene who seemed to be > very interested in spiritual development simply as > a means to escape hardship and/or big-note > themselves as being 'above' this earthly world. > > I suppose that is very jud
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Thankyou for the welcome Valma!
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Hello Everyone, I'm new to the forum, joined because of my knowledge of James Swartz, to participate in that topic. I'm very familiar with Vedanta, though not with Mooji. My comparison is being revealed already, haha. I'm not entirely sure what Mooji teaches. He says his teachers are Papaji and he also met Ramana Maharshi. Both of these taught modern Vedanta. Modern Ved
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Sahara71 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > earthquake Wrote: > -- > > > > Part of purna ananda is the desire to help > others. > > With humilty. A teacher is not special. They > just > > have a responsiblity > > > > So if he saw ot as some big hardship. That is > > strange. > > > Yes, ab
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Im a bit conscious that of the nature of this great forum. So im tryin to be mindful the forum isnt about vedanta. So im tryin to illustrate how JS personal view often isnt in line with traditional vedanta. In everything i say. If i fall a little short i applogise Even Ramakrishna mission have openly classed themselves as neo (court papers attest to this circa 1980s). So they are open and kee
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Thanks for the welcome everyone. Lots to talk about in the many points raised. I cant properly BB code reply to them until I get to the work, bit heck i shall type here from memory. Yep, Mooji. I shall have to get into those topics in a couple days time. I dont know his system. Papaji is recoqnised as modern vedanta. That is one thing. Perhaps Mooji has went a bit to modern, i mean, McDonalds.
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Perhaps that, and the well known phenomenon of "the curious case of the wandering hands"..
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Words nearly fail me. The accusatory tone of jet setting across the world. He is one to talk! His title says is all also. Mystic bg default. The issues Swami Dayananda had were cause of mystic vedanta. Placing expereince at the top of moksha sadhana. That is contrary to shankara. It is by jnanam, knowledge alone. Scripture is top. JS also ia talking purely of exprrience here. Which is
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This is where JS trips himself up. In his own terms. When he says seeker turned finder. That is SW speak for realization. They then have something called actualization that they term moksha. There is mo such thing as self realization and actualization. JS claims both are two parts of moksha. There is only moksha. One. Swami Dayananda says modern vedants made self realization up. And i
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Hello Everyone, I've been pointed to your forum by an existing member. I appreciate this is a closed forum, however i'm going to share what I feel comfortable with as and when. I got my own reasons guys. I've intimate knowledge about the topical subject matter, though some things that have been broached I won't talk about just yet. I'm talking with the author of H
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