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3 years ago
earthquake
QuoteAllowance > > How do I show that someone is not > my master other than just saying he is not my > master? If I accused you of having Hitler as your > master, how would you show me that he > isn't? Your analogy doesn't make sense. Hitler is dead, and I haven't been on here even remotely speaking about him, never mind supporting him, nor by-passing th
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3 years ago
earthquake
QuoteAllowance Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > earthquake Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > That's a bit hypocritical. I can tell we are > > entering the twilight zone with you people > > again... > > Who is "you people"? I speak for > myself. > > > >
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3 years ago
earthquake
Allowance Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Traveler99 Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > James Swartz > > > > Confirmed: > > Liar > > Back-Stabber > > False "Teacher" > > Killer of Neighbors' Pet Dog > > Abuser of Women and Bully of Men > > Betra
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3 years ago
earthquake
Telling Lies Doesn't Qualify To Teach Dharma Today’s e-satsang, that the Swartz’ post is very important, though not for the reason they think... Quote”Kate/Inquirer to Isabella Swartz” ...For instance, the email you posted about the Vedanta teacher you recently unsubscribed when you realized his thinking has gone down the Alice in Wonderland route, that really fascinates me. Especially
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3 years ago
earthquake
So, if everyone reading types 'Robert Harrison Vedanta' into google and scrolls to the bottom of the first page you will see a 'legal notice' as well as a European data protection notice. This works for UK and European Google search engines, I am not sure about other countries, though I've had it tested in the USA. Scroll to the bottom of the first page anyhow. Those
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3 years ago
earthquake
James Swartz - Fake Teacher Of Traditional Vedanta Quote”James Swartz” We have a situation with a former inquirer, Wayne Robert Harrison, who having used Shiningworld to learn Vedanta and set himself up as a teacher on . I’d prefer if James Swartz didn’t identify himself in regard to my Vedanta learning, and my role as a teacher. I don’t wish my name to be tarnished by any kind of associati
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3 years ago
earthquake
The Abusive Teachings Of James & Isabella Swartz It is one thing to be personally gaslighted by leaders in a so-called spiritual organisation, but it is quite another for the Swartz’ to talk complete rubbish in regard to Vedanta. Rubbish that is used spitefully to abuse members. In this short article I’m going to reveal even further how they are making up teachings in Vedanta that are be
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3 years ago
earthquake
Shiningworld Use Spiritual Titles To Control By now you might begin to see that the Swartz’ feel that it is valid in their version of what they teach to gaslight, publicly humiliate and ostracise any member that dares to refuse to bend to their will in regard to personal beliefs. While my last article addressed the initial attempts to gaslight me two years ago, this article will invalidate r
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3 years ago
earthquake
Ongoing Successful Challenges to Defamation Just a small post. I wasn't going to mention this, as it is actually dated a few weeks ago... I have been accusing Google of being complicit in defamation against me, by showing the defamatory articles that Shiningworld have wrote about me. After explaining the situation in a dispute with Google they have upheld my complaint and have begin
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3 years ago
earthquake
Introduction I’ve been very vocal on this forum & this topic for some time and have intimated more than once that at some point if I was challenged I would begin to provide digital evidence of what I was asserting. I feel that it will be a fitting end to the year, and start to the coming one to begin to do this now. It’s understandable that the idea of attacking me would somehow seem
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3 years ago
earthquake
I just want to make sure I got this right... That former teacher gave the SWartz his own opinion about what is essentially personal views. I gave the Swartz' my opinion about my own personal views. That former teacher was told that they didnt study Vedanta systematically. I was told I didnt study Vedanta systematically. That former teacher was in favour until they stood up for th
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3 years ago
earthquake
I briefly glanced on this before, but i'm so glad that you've highlighted it... Whether or not a letter from 'Grant' actually exists, or ever existed, would be a matter of debate itself, either way it is a common tactic for the Swartz' to use an e-satsang that has got nothing to do with another person, to settle scores. Or even open the salvo's toward them, sendin
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3 years ago
earthquake
On Guru's... QuoteTrav How many? You move forward until you find the correct one. That's how it's always been. A good guru can tell if a person is "right" for him or her or not. Some have been known to say, "That's not a question for me. You should be with (that teacher), not me," and to in a positive way to send the person onward. (For that matter, ma
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3 years ago
earthquake
Hey Trav, Sorry for not getting back sooner. There was a passing of a relative, and I've been with family all week. I'm only home now. I was directing my posts at the trolls, but I can see it may have looked otherwise. I can only say, I was distracted with real world things as I was posting. :). I'd mentioned in one of my latter postings that i'd not even read most of
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3 years ago
earthquake
I'm not even reading most of that. You have no authority over my validity as a teacher. What on earth are you talking about? If you are in Vedanra yob are to trust the decision of the lineage. That is a foolish conversation. In Vedanta if you dont understand something the issue is with the student..not the teacher, or lineage. None of you make the decisions in Vedanta. Who are.you to as
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3 years ago
earthquake
I think its time to stop talking shit. I said I reported these matters to the police and I can prove it. You people are not willing to go to any authorities whatsoever. I can prove I've went to the police, and noone is bothering their ass to even ask for the proof I claim to have. Frankly you are all silly. I've said publicly lies have been told about me, and I can prove it. Yet noo
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3 years ago
earthquake
QuoteRama Vasistha > > > > > Once again, you don't know what you're talking > > about in regard to Vedanta. It's the > Shiningworld > > position that a person doesn't change Gurus. > They > > teach that to try to hold onto people. However, > in > > actual Vedanta it is not only normal it is > > encouraged
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3 years ago
earthquake
It's really appreciated that you've bumped this topic up to the top again. Everytime you people come on here with your foolish posts you bring this topic to the forum's top, and also help to perpetuate the search engine saturation. QuoteRama Vasistha > > Where in the Upanishads or any other Vedanta > scripture does it mention sending nude photos of > yoursel
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3 years ago
earthquake
Can I just bring something else to the attention of the forum please? I've mantained all along that Shiningworld doctor what is wrote to them, and publish that. They did it to me in a massive 23 page e-satsang trying to publicly humiliate me and ostracising me from the Shiningworld community two years ago, and i've watched them do it since. Over the last three days i've wat
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3 years ago
earthquake
QuoteDis-illusioned > > Earthquake, you explained the subtle distinction > about when karma is necessary and useful (for a > new seeker preparing to become qualified for the > teachings) and how once that stage is over and the > truth has landed, that there is no point in > continuing to practice karma yoga, since the whole > game has been seen through. The truth n
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3 years ago
earthquake
Apologies for this post, as the last two posts have got the topic on track again. I just wanted to clarify what i'd wrote yesterday about Swami Dayananda. The other Swami has told me that it is correct (as I repeated), except for one thing. It wasn't that Swami Dayananda wasn't taught inquiry as I had wrote. It's that he wasn't taught that Vedanta is what's calle
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3 years ago
earthquake
I'm getting a little conscious that the topic might have been hi-jacked a little, especially by me, lol. Sorry about that everyone. If I can just finish in regard to the current context. It's one thing to know what 'I' am in Vedanta. It's like a see-saw. The positive effect of knowing that is evident, then conditioning kicks in. That's because I may know what I
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3 years ago
earthquake
QuoteDis-IllusionedI’ll read through all of that slowly and carefully, so thank you for posting. There's numerous teachings in that post. The foundation of Vedanta is there, the karana karyam prakriya (cause/Effect). Ajativada (non-origination of creation). And Adhyaropa apavada. :) . QuoteDis-Illusioned What I’m then not understanding, is, what was it that Swami Dayananda couldn’t
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3 years ago
earthquake
Self-inquiry is atma vicara in sanskrit. It is in regard to I/Self. That's only one 'component' of freedom. The other is understanding the world. What the world is, is what I experience. So, it's understanding what I experience. it's assimilation. Trying to solely identify as Brahman is nididhyasnana. The last stage. At that stage one isn't trying to understand t
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3 years ago
earthquake
Karma isnt here to punish us. It's here so we learn. But in order to learn from it, we've to inquire into what's being revealed. We look at our reactions, projections, etc, and see how valid they are according to VEdanta. I mean, if someone says something about me online. and I react. Why am I reacting? is it out of dharma, or is it because there is a sense of limitation or lac
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3 years ago
earthquake
Sure,:) . Pujya Swamiji (Swami Dayananda) was expected to sit at the feet of Swami Chinmanyananda and just 'get it'. As in enlightenment. Pujya Swamiji found that impossible. and was going to try to return back home. He went through a horrible time. Once he found out something was missing Chinmayananda sent him to another Guru. Isn't it interesting he was sent to someone else?
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3 years ago
earthquake
QuoteDis_illusioned ...when corresponding with James. There > seemed to be duality, and contradiction in things > he said. I couldn’t seem to see the bridge between > the teachings, and ordinary life. Yes - I get the > Satya mithia aspects, but still there is a world > reality that we are all speaking from, and I > wasn’t understanding how the teachings really > worked
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3 years ago
earthquake
QuoteDis-Illusioned ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks Earthquake, but I don’t understand what > you’re referring to exactly. Do you mean the part > about loss of compassion and heart etc? Yes, what you'd said in regard to Vedanta and having loss of heart, compassion, etc. I'll just write a little of what I had deleted earlier, to explain.
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3 years ago
earthquake
You're welcome. I'd wrote another big spiel but couldn't be bothered posting, haha. Your last sentence that I quoted is very understandable. And it's because of the shared teachings that we've both had in the past. That's why I mentioned one sentence about 'those teachings'. And then wrote about 'traditional Vedanta'. Namaste :)
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