IMPORTANT INFO from Rick Ross about how spiritual teachers, who charge money, should handle it (copied from main thread, just posted) : "You are right these are "different times" that require different steps taken to insure integrity and prevent abuse. When people like Mooji run a large enterprise that has substantial cash flow, but is supposedly for a spiritual nonpro
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This is what I have seen, witnessed, experienced myself in Sahaja and what other longterm devotees in MS have shared with me over the years in normal conversations. (people do talk with each other although it is forbidden to do so. But not every inch in M's kingdom can be controlled, thanks god!) 1. Public shaming and gas lightening happen all the time in MS. It can occur in all forms
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This thread is for sharing important information about Moojis cult, posting ressources and reports from people, who left the cult. For comments and discussions please use the main thread So it will be easier for Newcomers to find important information on the spot. For comments, discussions and general cult information please use the main thread So if you left the cult, please post
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This is what I have seen, witnessed, experienced myself in Sahaja and what other longterm devotees in MS have shared with me. (people do talk with each other although it is forbidden to do so. But not every inch in MS can be controlled) 1. Public shaming and gas lightening happen all the time in MS. It can occur in all forms, from subtle to gross. People are laughed at often in satsang meeti
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Thank you Maria Lena for posting your experience! May many follow your example!
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Sahara71 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, absolutely Rick Ross! In fact, members of > Mooji's cult who are looking for information about > what is happening in their own organisation > look towards this message board for the facts. > This has been very recently confirmed to me by a > long-term member of the cult who is still resid
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John Dollop Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/07086049/filing-history > Follow the money trail. > Thank you so much John for posting the official numbers! I can tell you that in reality they make MUCH MORE MONEY, but it is obviously not in the records! (I know from a close former cult member) M
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Sahara71 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- I have been looking into this cult for some time. I did find out a lot of fascinating stuff - much of which I can't write about here, out of respect for those people which were kind enough to put their trust in me and share their stories. Allegedly: Yes, the Mooji organisation are a destructive cult. T
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NoWayNowhere Wrote: > Ananas I agree with you that there can never be > any proof of whether someone is enlightened or > realized. Unfortunately there is no objective > yardstick for that. But these questions are also > beyond our possibilities of discussion here. To me, this is another MYTH spread by many self claimed gurus: that others can NEVER know if someone is en
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When people come here and want to discuss "from an objective point of view .Not from assumptions and hearsay stuff", when they want proof including names, adresses, phone numbers (can I leave my tax number out maybe?) they are totally blind for the FACT, that there is no proof whatsoever for M being fully realized/enlightened at all. And only because he himself (yes he does!) and his fo
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One more note: I have compassion for everyone still trapped in M's cult (including M himself). Been there, done it, did not want to hear when others were pointing out obvious flaws, ignored red flags for a long time. And as said, its painful to see the truth, admit that one has fallen for a big lie and it takes quite a while to get out and heal. It might seem easier to put others down just t
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Bodhi, you are not well educated on how cults and in this case the M cult operates AT ALL, so I will not further discuss with you but give information for others. This thread was started with the question "is M a cult" and since it started many people came here and reported what they have experienced, seen and witnessed. So the question has long been answered and for those who
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Bodhi, this thread is about M's cult, the abuse done by him (mental, emotional, physical, spiritual, sexual, energetical and financial), the tools he and his team are using and a safe place to share what people have experienced. So is your intention to find out if M is a cult? You say the devotion is an aspect that goes towards cult. Is there anything else you have seen and witne
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Bodhi68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- that doesn't take away the > quality of these meditations. Bodhi, this is definately NOT the place to promote or praise any of M's materials. What is your intention of posting in this forum?
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Bodhi68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- .And > if you are not repelled too much by the high > devotion that surrounds Mooji, Mooji's guided > meditations are the best and deepest i've ever > listened to. ;-) > This is very bad advice, please do not follow. M's guided meditations as well as all of his satangs, videos etc put
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This new site does not seem truthworthy.
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Hi everyone! I took a good break from focusing on m and instead focusing on my life again and this is the right step for me now. So my own "getting out" process was like this: 1. doubts and questions about his teachings 2. gut and body reactions I did not know why 3. reading and meeting other teachers and realizing how much clarity can be provided by teachings/teacher
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Chrissy, welcome and thank you so much for sharing your experience! So sorry to hear about the suicide and how poorly m and sangha reacted! Good for you that you did see through m's games and that you were able to pull out before getting deeper into this cult. You made very good points, thank you!
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klaklaklak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ALso it's catchy! I played it for a few seconds > while my nieces and nephews were around this > weekend (oops) and they were breaking out into > this chant playfully throughout the weekend. When > my 6-year-old niece sang it this morning in the > car, out of nowhere , 36 hours after she&
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Sahara71 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think it's a great idea to write a book (as you > already know!) I hope people will get on board > with this and share their experiences with you > (anonymously if they wish). > > Writing a book could be very rewarding on a > personal level, quite apart from what it might > reveal
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Thank you Valma for pointing out the video on No Ramana lineage...I remember sitting in this satsang, when he said that and while I was still part of this circus, this felt so off. I think it was around the same time, when m told several people in sahaja, that they are no longer allowed/or should not wear ramana mala, BUT HIS MALA.
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Sahara71 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > I have said so myself- I don't think there is > anything especially suspect about the process > of self-inquiry. This process does not belong > to Tony and he teaches it very ineptly- but still, > people may get something out of it. > Yes, we have something similar to self inquir
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Joyfree Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Seems like, unfortunately, the spiritual world is > full of wolfs in sheep’s clothing. YES, that is painful to realize...I really "throws" you back to yourself and I guess helps you to grow up spiritually. > They make perfect prays for > those unethical teachers. As far as of
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Annette, that is really ugly! I heard he moved to spain, just a few hours from where m is located...Coincidence? Better be near to get m students "fresh from the plate"....
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zizlz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You may be right about that. If you've read my > previous posts going back months, you'll know that > I do see serious problems with Mooji. But I also > see value in his teachings, and if I hope to > achieve anything by posting here, it's that people > don't throw out the baby wit
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Ok, thinking about it again, I would say, that for most of the people who find m on youtube it is not useful at all or even dangerous to be drawn into his pseudo advaita teachings, as they are at a total diffrent stage in their spiritual search (not naturally at their very end of searching) and they need preliminary practices, which give a solid foundation. Without this foundation it even more ea
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Okay, I have heard this many times now on youtube or fb, that it is M's pointings which are so valueable and that one should not mix the messanger with the message. In my opinion these are dangerous statements, because there is so much FALSITY, CONFUSION, BENT TRUTH (example as discussed: "sometimes truth has to lie") and MISLEADING statements or conditioning mixed into m'
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Zizlz, ok I understand and it makes very much sense. You see, you came from a background of daily meditating and being part of a zen buddhist school. This helps IMMENS and yes, I can see how this benefited you. Good for you, but most people have no clue of awakening and the no background one very well gets with practicing like you did. So for so many other people, without solid foundation, m
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Zizlz, so you think that it is the people around m who are creepy but not m himself? Do you think m is doing something wrong...or is the not self responsible followers and his creepy enourage? And in which way exactly did you benefit from m pointings?
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Yes Corboy, well said! "Corboy note: that seeming "choice" we make to subjugate ourselves to a cult leader is a decision made in a dishonest context. That context, that setting has been organized by the cult leader to work for him and against us. Two, many of us are in crisis and disoriented when we cross paths with our future cult leader. In crisis we are in a *physical/ps
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