I've just read your posts. My daughter tried to kill herself immediately after she left the LA MITT program, after endless phone harassment. She was pushed into it by her aunt (my sister) and was made to feel guilty when she tried to get out of doing the LP portion, both by the group and by my sister. She drove to New York and jumped into the East River at 4 in the morning in April of las
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Just remember JG, they are taught that if they are serving their Guru's orders and making him happy, they can be doing absolutely anything and it wont matter. Remember in the article where it said that the girls admitted they would commit murder for Butler?
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If I recall, 55 Kukui Street is/was the condo building that Mike and Carol Gabbard lived in at one time. Im sure theres a few condos there that are owned by Butler Cult members.
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Quotecorboy(Shake of head) Am revealing my ignorance here. Homeland Security is important. How on earth is a raw recruit to Congress, a junior member, allowed on to such an important committee? Sheesh. One has to pass a written and drivers test before one is licensed to drive a car, and if one is a minor, one has to start out with conditional use permits in many states. Easy. You pay
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It is my hypothesis that Tulsi was groomed for Congress so that Butler can use her to destroy his enemies and protect his interests. Those in Congress, while susceptible to scrutiny, are easily able to broker back door deals, nudge favors, exert influence and sweep things under the carpet. It is no small wonder that Nancy Pelosi heavily endorsed Gabbard, an unproven freshman Congresswoman from
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Thank you Mr. Ross. I would like to reiterate what Vera says about the reach of the cult's tentacles. Having any, even remotely identifiable, information that the cult can use to piece together your identity can quite possibly lead to great harm. This is why those who are knowledgeable about the cult's workings in any way, know both the dangers of exposing them, as well as the equal
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Hopefully they offered more than just $10k which is a nice sum of money that Mr. Ross (the cult expert) can use to further the exposure of dangerous cults. The definite plus to this is no more late night phone calls with people screaming at him or fan mail that doesnt belong to him. Hopefully even better, this will get more exposure for Mr. Ross and his cause.
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California Sikh Republican to Hawaii Hindu Democrat: Stop Emailing Me for Money Tuesday, July 2nd, 2013 Hawaii Reporter.com Harmeet Kaur Dhillon, the Chair of the San Francisco Republican Party and Vice-Chair of the California Republican Party, wrote the following post about Hawaii Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard's many political contribution solicitations sent to her: From Facebook: S
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If it means anything to anyone, I left many years ago. Afterwards, I felt lost, confused, lonely and almost went back to what I thought was the safety of the cult. It slowly sank in that those people were not my friends, they were not my neighbors, nor did I owe them anything. All they did was take years of my life away and used me. I thought they gave me purpose, but what they gave me was emptin
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The Star-Advertiser WILL NOT report on Chris Butler's Science of Identity Hare Krishna Cult. It has been suggested to me that there are cult members or people influenced by them that keep the cult out of the pages of the local paper. Besides, the Star Advertiser doesnt want a lawsuit it cant afford to fight against the cult's deep pockets. It will report on Bhakti being in prison,
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Yeah the comments on the DailyKOS post were great. Its unfortunate that no one knew what to do or how to connect the dots enough. Whats really unfortunate is that so much more could have been known if people were able to go just 1 step further and see the bigger picture. Flash, thanks for the update on Bhakti. Its sad to see him at this low point. I hope him the best. I will be very interest
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Quotetellyouliesyes the projects that dear sidda is working on as follows. and the 3 kids are Satya, Subhadra, and Siddha Bellord, they have all been raised in the cult, there mom is wai lana, there father last name is Bellord, and their "step dad" is Mr. Butler. no doubt funded by Wai Lana, and the cult followers. it looks like Satya Bellord sounds like she has stepped out
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The 7 fold mystic powers as far as I know, were definitely from the Sai days. I recall mention of some of CB's "mystic powers" but they were rarely talked about openly and were only done so to solidify his stature as a powerful guru who was above our lowly mortal status. Looking at the projects that Siddha has been working on, it definitely looks like he is being groomed for th
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QuoteVera City Several exers have left the Butler group traumatized as well as disenchanted, but will not speak ill of him, still brainwashed into thinking he is a superior being while they are somehow not good enough.... especially if they can't keep up or please the "Master". Even after people leave the cult, years later, can still be harnessed with a deep sense of inadequacy.
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I came across Ian's blog a long while back before I came across this board. I had been googling names of people I had known while I was in the cult to see what had become of them. It's not exactly a secret anymore. Its on the internet. Its public. The curtain has been drawn and you can see the little man behind it now. In regards to memories, I have many fond memories still of gather
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Narottam Bishop has a landscaping business in Kailua. Nitai Bishop runs Paradise Found Cafe in Haleiwa last I heard. Their mother's name is Jeannie if I remember correctly.
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My notes on the ones that I know of: Jai Gabbard - No longer a cult member Bhakti Gabbard - completely indoctrinated Narayan Gabbard - completely indoctrinated Sachi Henrietta - completely indoctrinated Moon Robinson Sita McCarthy Soesman Satya Martin Neumeyer - completely indoctrinated Mohini Moore Devavani Conroy Nashringa Henrietta Nitai G Bishop - completely indoctrinate
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I'm sure they did a lot of background checking and found that Chris Butler lives in a mansion in Lanikai. Im sure they found that there was probably a LOT of money donated to various campaigns to get everyone to bow down to Tulsi during the primary election. And Im sure they figured that they can control her better than her guru can, although they have no idea they have a Manchurian Candidat
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And it only gets worse: This just came up on my Google Alerts Tulsi has been elected as Vice Chair of the Democratic Party in Washington.
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For those who are concerned about having information revealed to malicious, possibly cult owned websites, there are ways to become more anonymous online. One example is TOR found at which "protects you by bouncing your communications around a distributed network of relays run by volunteers all around the world: it prevents somebody watching your Internet connection from learning what sit
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Flash (and others), BigIslandNow.com is owned by Pacific Radio Group, who is a media conglomerate with radio stations on the big island and elsewhere. That link is (relatively) safe.
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So it seems the Butlerites are up to their shenanigans again. Came across a few gems today. First: The Butler kids now have some legitimacy with Satya's role in Kill Bill as a stunt person. http://www.bigbearacademy.com/karma-kula-mystic-warrior-martial-arts-action-series.html This will help expose younger, impressionable people to the cult in a more subconscious way, normalizing the
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Well, it looks like Tulsi is going for the power grab. The irony that she wants the spot formerly held by the man that her cult plotted to destroy. http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/20420436/congresswoman-elect-tulsi-gabbard
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The best part? That article specifically links Tulsi to Chris Butler aka Siddhaswarupananda. QuoteBut Congresswoman Gabbard (hereafter referred to as “Tulsi”) has been a practicing Hindu since her teens. Specifically, she is a Vaishnava. According to India Abroad, she is a student of Sidhasvarupananda, who was himself initiated into the Brahma Madhva Gaudiya Sampradaya by ISKCON Founder A.C. B
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Dont forget that Mike Gabbard aka Krishnakatha Das was given an award by "Father" Moon at one time as well. Link Of course reading that page again still gives me the chills when I see the section that says: QuoteUniversity of Hawaii religion professor Cromwell Crawford offered thoughtful remarks to the local press. "He's not singular in that perspective, every rel
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I never did understand that part. If Chris was a pure devotee, and protected by God and friends with God and blah blah blah, why didnt God protect him from all the germs and chemicals he is so vulnerable to? Isnt Chris the utmost friend of Krishna? Why would Krishna want his friend and pure devotee to suffer from something so material? Logic: killing illusions one thought at a time.
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Quoteflashlight_on_roaches Are you referring to Alana Penaroza? She would be Bill's daughter-in-law married to his son Rama who works for Noni Connection. Or are there other Penaroza's on the Tulsi Gabbard payroll? Looks like the Noni business isnt doing so well these days. Seems they havent done their annual filing with the State of Hawaii. Yet, somehow, their workers were able to ma
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I wonder if the guy that Iam is referring to is Hanuman Das. I recall he was CB's main lackey/bodyguard at one time. Would make sense to put him in charge there as he was a strong arm for CB.
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Quoteflashlight_on_roaches Tulsi Gabbard dressed as a real Hindu with the "mark" on her forehead. It made me throw up a little in my mouth. It will not be difficult now to expose this coverup of her true beliefs. Thanks, Dabcult There were very very few times that we wore tilak (the forehead marking). I dont ever remember us wearing it in public and actually recall it being discourage
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Quoteflashlight_on_roaches Most of us have gotten reprimands from the moderator, myself included. He runs a tight ship because cult members have tried in the past to divert the conversations. Don't reveal too much current information about yourself and never disclose your identity. Myself included as well. Keep in mind that this forum is also watched by the cult and not only do some of
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