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11 years ago
John lazuras
Thanks Treefern and Lifetruetome, Regardless of what UM are putting out on their web site and trying to tell the public, it is common knowledge and I have seen it that UM through Serge / Natalie and his practioners, that they do state that if you remove EVIL PRANA from your body you will not get sick………sickness is only because of the build-up of EVIL Prana. I have first handed seen UMers st
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
John lazuras
Hi All, I would like to say thank you Serge for launching the NEW ERA…..now I am not talking about the UMer CD that is the only and best music in the world to listen too made with love ( in UM beliefs) but the NEW ERA of accountability and scrutiny that will be required by the public and government agencies from Universal Medicine and Serge moving forward. Every word you say, every idea and t
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
John lazuras
As Quoted from the Anna Maria web site: (annamariacom.blogspot.com/2012/07/new-australian-cult) "Serge had a brilliant idea that couldn't lose. Gullible women looking for that elusive "something" missing from their lives have had their prayers answered and Serge was clever enough to put a name to it - he says his female students have merely discovered the "livingness
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
John lazuras
Hi All, I feel that the UM followers have missed the point on the current discussion with regards to UM. Rebecca08 recently stated in a reply to this forum: “So when a student of UniMed or any other organization starts talking about love in a fashion that is very over the top and flowery rather than simply living it and being that love, then yeah, I am going to point out that they are per
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
John lazuras
Hi KIK, as an estimate at the end of last week this site had just over 20,000 hits and today there has near been 24000 hits.........so yes over the weekend there has been a fair amount of interest on UM. Quoteknowledge_is_king Hey John, how have the views on this site been going, I bet we sparked some interest over the weekend hey?
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
John lazuras
QuoteMacReadyThanks MacReady for the information on reincarnation, Serge also tells his follows that to be reincarnated that they must be cremated and leave the world with all their organs. I know of UM followers who have been registered as organ donors cancel their registration as a donor as almighty Serge has told them that they must keep their organs. Gee this guy has some great power and in
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
John lazuras
Thanks MacReady for the information on reincarnation, Serge also tells his follows that to be reincarnated that they must be cremated and leave the world with all their organs. I know of UM followers who have been registered as organ donors cancel their registration as a donor as almighty Serge has told them that they must keep their organs. Gee this guy has some great power and influence over
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
John lazuras
Hi Rebecca08, Thank you for your recent contribution to this forum. I ask myself what is LOVE, and I believe LOVE can be interrupted in many different ways. To me LOVE is when I give my kids and wife a hug I get the feeling down my spine, that I know my children and wife know that I genuinely LOVE them and I know they love me. LOVE can be expressed in many different ways by all people. I
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
John lazuras
Hi All, Please read the below points that have been recently discussed at Natalie Benhayon Esoteric Womens Presentation in England in recent months. These are extracts from the notes from the group on what was discussed…..in their words. 1. “Since Natalie presented about periods and the period diary every single women who has tried having a period using pads instead of tampons has loved i
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
John lazuras
Hi All, In recent weeks my wife has received in excess of 10 emails from UM "buddies". UM set up a buddies system on their Esoteric Development Group and Esoteric Womens Group where people who attend their seminars on the EDG and EWG take notes and send through to the faithful followers who cannot get to London or Northern NSW for the meetings. UM have their people trained wel
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
John lazuras
Thanks corboy, A lady that i know who is strongly in UM, follows all the teachings of UM to a very strict way especially the diet side. She constantly raves about how good UM is and how it makes her feel GOOD, but when i look at her all i see is a very sick person who needs a good feed of substance. ( maybe some steak, some diary and some gluten). She has very thin hair, bad skin and i
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
John lazuras
QuotetreefernCOncerned partner, you must have a lot of spare time on your hands to even read Serges drivell, but thank you for doing it, I had the best laugh and still can't see the screen for the tears of LAUGHTER running down my cheeks. I will be showing it to all family and friends who have been involved, I know they too wil enjoy it thouroughly. My son keeps saying some really clever pe
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
John lazuras
Thanks Concerned Partner for your summary of Slerges new era message. How can anyone believe what he preaches is beyond me.... i do not know how my intelligent / charming wife can believe what he preaches and follow his teachings. The more information gathered and discussed here is of great help when i have the discussions with my wife and i feel i am getting a win with doubt about the teac
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
John lazuras
Thanks Gillweir for your words on UM. I contribute to the thread on UM but also hope you are able to post more on your knowledge of this poor organisation on this page so i can gain a better understanding of the group. I have struggled to read a page on one of Serges books so my knowledge on Esoteric comes from what i can read and understand on these sites. regards
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
John lazuras
Thanks Concerned Partner, One point i forgot to report is that Natalie is only 22 years old she states on the recording....how a young person at this age with no real formal training could counsel women on relationship issues is beyond me. It is a sorry state when the women who listen to her are happy to discuss there issues with her when she has little life experience.....and pay her for
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11 years ago
John lazuras
QuoteEric DobbsHi everyone, has anyone noticed that ESOTERIC BREAST MASSAGE has been removed from the benhayon sites.I get the distinct feeling that these loons are feeling some heat and it's not from their "fiery sutras" either.Is it still possible to purchase a jar of serge's fine ointment guaranteed to restore those breasts to their former glory I ask. ? Come on serge how a
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
John lazuras
This is my evaluation of UM, Gibbs. The students think they've found a solution in Serge's convoluted presentations, but they fail to realize that he actually presented a very confusing, in all likelihood imaginary set of problems which he claims to exclusively have the solutions to, the catch being it will take a lifetime (possibly multiple lifetimes!) of doing 'the work' (an
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
John lazuras
Hi All, Again great reading on all comments. Gibbs - thanks for your input into this topic on UM and your dealings. As Knowledge_is_ King states that you have given us hope that we can get our family members out from the spell of UM. In my case i now work together with my wife in a loving way now, instead of a confrontational / argumentative way on the teachings of UM. I seem to ha
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
John lazuras
Hi All, I have attached a small part of UM notes from their recent retreats in 2012 that was recently emailed out to all their students. Have a read......how anyone can believe what he preaches i do not understand. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ By the immutable facts of Energetic Laws – Never is humanity not
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
John lazuras
Thanks Treefern for your message it was great to get a female side to the story and see that it is no different to what many of us have gone through with our female partners and their devotion to UM. Unfortunately my children are to young to hold an intervention for me, i stay in the relationship with my wife to ensure my wife does not drag my kids into the UM way of life and teachings and bec
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
John lazuras
Hi All, Great postings of late. Gaining a better understanding on the negative effects that UM has on all our loved ones. I am starting to think......sorry feel....no think that we all probably have a better knowledge of the teachings of UM than our loved ones. Did anyone see 60 minitues in Australia on Sunday night, they had a storey on the evil of sugar in our diets and what it is d
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
John lazuras
Thanks Lifetruetome for your comments. In recent time i have changed the way i have been dealing with my wife and UM. No longer do i have heated arguments about UM and challenge there teachings in these arguments. I had a long discussion with my wife re the UM teachings and found that it is all about being / feeling LOVED....so now i fill this void that my partner has been missing and i mus
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
John lazuras
Hi, Can you provide information on how i can get my partner to leave the UM. She recently attend the retreat in NSW and has returned with more changes eg going to bed early, a picture of mona lisa and more of Serges books and a pillow case for her dreams. I have tried reading his books but find a can not get past the first few pages as they do not make sense along with allot of his teach
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