Just a friendly reminder of Chris Butlers guru, bhaktivedanta Swamis deep vision for an already racist west: Butler has given similar talks and I grew up hearing this crap. I was against so many minorities as a devotee. Sure, the philosophy preaches tolerance and acceptance and inclusivity, but primarily it attracts bigots as the vedas are filled to the brim with castism, racism, misogyny,
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My kids or both in Waldorf schools 4 a few years up until around the age of six. From an educational standpoint, it was a Milder and more holistic approach to learning in my opinion. I can't say that Rudolph Steiner's philosophy in terms of some of the race stuff and other cultish elements is pushed excessively within the school. There is obviously ritualistic aspects of the way the yea
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The queen of cultish deception had dropped her suit to focus on more important and realistic ways of making money and diverting attention... so much for science of identities and Chris Butler's last gasp attempt at trying to rake in the Millions. Germaphobe Siddhaswarupananda paramahamsa chris butler needs her to focus her energy on making hawaii safe for him to breathe in so he can r
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Thought I'd leave this here if anyone had not read it. I tend to agree with much of this in context to Butler's and Tulsi's "Hinduism".
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Another journalist doing thier job right. Butler and his clan will never outsmart people like this and the investigative digging work on Gralow's www.meanwhileinhawaii.com series. Not to mention what this forum and previous blogs exposed. All Chris Butler and SIF can do is throw money at the truth hoping it will dissolve. And how is a "humble", reclusive, bhakti yoga gu
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Who cares where she lives??? She wakes each morning and hits the sack contemplating butler. That's sad and wrong no matter how you slice it.
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Looks like Gabbard, AKA Chris Butlers plaything, is losing her silly lawsuits one by one, so naturally they will start coming back to their tried and true way of making money: the little guy. Stand firm amigos.
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Looks like Chris Butler is busy having his disciples pass out defamation lawsuits in the style of Scientology to anyone and everyone who challenges him and tries to expose his criminal dealings. It's pretty astounding that with all the posts on this forum about the criminal activity and abuses of this group as well as an obviously growing movement of people on social media exposing this cult
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She will never get $0.01 from that lawsuit. She will never make it to any bestseller list with her book. In fact she will never realize anything substantial in her life until she denounces and exposes her ties to Chris Butler.
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Butler must be displeased. Has her on light duty. It's her chance to shine a light on Butler and his criminal enterprise. Will she have the courage to expose his sham or will she continue to hide in the shadows? Shes pushed back her book publication date. Is she getting cold feet about her ties to Butler being exposed in countless Amazon book reviews? Can't imagine it's a compelli
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Just in politics. Shes a politician, from a political family with a guru who has groomed her and her father to advance his political power ambitions. Shes not going to become a uber driver is my point.
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As useful as this: Shes still going to be his political puppet. I'm sure she'll be back at it soon enough. It's a great way to launder money for him and his followers. Just pass it through her campaign.
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The publishing theory is very interesting to me. Bhaktivedanta used to parrot his guru by calling the printing press "brihat mrdanga", essentially a loud drum everyone can hear. Now it seems the internet is the brigat mrdanga for these fringe cults to spread thier ideas quickly. I guess what I find interesting is that prior to mass printing, most Vedic ideas were not readily availab
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Hinduism is complex. It basically is an umbrella term for the scholarly observation of an ancient peoples evolving an amalgamation of Faith's along the Indus River. It's the only "major religion" that is technically not a singular religion or religion at all. It's a loose term applied to many Faith's, philosophical paths and cults emerging from india. If we want to g
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Of course shes been called out. She cries religious bigotry, smears, and calls it anti hindu. Shes not made a single statement denouncing the crook. Even if she were conflicted about her ties to Butler it would take years for her to recover from realizing and accepting that she was taken for a ride. It would derail her political career, which shes obviously attached to. Rejecting butler would als
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Pretty much sums up the psychology and psychosis. With a less than savory analogy, but one that is acurate. Here is a classic example of a charlatan that speaks nuggets of truth, but essentially took advantage of people during the depression... Any idea, plan, or purpose may be placed in the mind through repetition of thought. —NAPOLEON HILL Again, while seemingly speaking from an enli
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Sure, many thousands of people know. Some don't care because they never grew up in a cult and it's nearly impossible for outsiders to "get it" since the cult-web is very elaborate in terms of how it all works to create a totally scrambled person inside, not to mention the internet thrives on misinformation about these clowns. With tulsi its showed through all throughout he
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She screwed herself even more by never denouncing butler.
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Holy Christ she sounds exactly like Butler here. Her Solutions to everything is to blame other people, fire them, create more paranoia and stigma. Got to love the literally 18 negative comments. People are starting to see the cult fear tactics at work through Butler's mouthpiece.
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Dudley, Someday, hopefully, not too long from now, you will look deep into your mind and realize the clown show of this cult. Hopefully it's not going to be too late to see and understand that the words and actions of Butler and his guru are false, misguided and basically nonsense. There is some good, obviously, but much of it is things you can readily apply your self if it seems helpful.
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Dudley, I would never want to be the person I rant against. You're welcome to clarify why you support a rabid cult leader. I'll be here relaxing and enjoying the life I have guided by my curiosity, risk taking and brain I have between my ears. I need not believe in fairy tales and vile gurus to achieve contentment and meaning and fulfillment. Take your bhaktivedanta swami hypocrisy
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What's the sound of one butler crying...
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They forgot to photoshop a surgical mask on her.
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That is some fucking god-awful crooked ass shit. And I always remember how vile Butler was towards Prema dasi. He would ridicule her in front of everybody. I remember him once telling everybody that she sees all men as cocks with wedding rings on them. These types of lecturers and transcripts were constantly being circulated and the kids sat through it all thinking that gods great representative
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Hey Vox, Love the Dire Straits remix. Even other army vets find it sickening and distasteful how many times tulsi plays the combat vet card. She saw first hand a computer and desk. It's not to negate her service and complete lack of foresight at the same time. I love my country, but when 9/11 happened, I clearly saw going to war was not the answer. As did millions of other Americans. N
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Looks like gabbard already started squawking about special treatment for her friends.. Wonder who her "FRIENDS" are? Millions are refused treatment. You have to meet the criteria of symptoms. Narcissism, megalomania and germophobia are not on the list. Aloha and namaste prabhus.
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Don't forget to disinfect the conchshell after the puja prabhuji! Maybe we'll forgo sprinkling the deities bathwater on the congregates tonight after artik. You know your guru's pure when he asks his devotees to wash his feet in isopropyl alcohol. The new hallmark of the Uttama adhikari. Butler was right to ask his devotees to wear surgical masks around him. Sure, he was 30
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Just like Butler, this ass crack is spreading ignorance that yoga will save people from this pandemic: A man-made system of stretching, breathing and philosophy is being touted as the way to save Humanity from itself in one of earth's largest populations (india). I dont even know what to say. It's like telling people to do pushups, read Plato and trust Zeus to solve viral pandemics
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Its gonna take money. A whole lot of spending money. To do it right. We all have seen first hand or heard from others how specific butler is in his ludicrous requests to satisfy his oddball tastes and so called needs. Discpliship, devotional service, bhakti yoga, karma yoga, love etc etc. They call it everything pleasant sounding under the sun to rope people in. But those who were there a
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It is a milestone. It's all so indicative of how Insidious the sculptors. Butler has spent years trying to break into politics through his various close to disciples and he actually succeeded. For those of us in this group who made it out it was probably one of the most disconcerting things to be alerted to years later when we had otherwise successfully rebuilt Our Lives and almost forgot ab
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