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The comments on The Guardian site are interesting. There are some Robbins "volunteers" posting, who volunteered at Robbins seminars for 9 YEARS. They worked for free to make Tony more millions of dollars for almost a decade of their life. Its all just a big game for guys like Robbins. Getting people to work for you for free, is a game to him. People are just objects to use. The
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Yes, that person above was a Robbins Clone, who was scammed by Robbins and took all his LGAT courses. Then that person goes out and tried to scam others, using the same tech, but obviously doing it very badly. They will simply lie about their net worth, or figure out a way to forge the paperwork if they can get away with it. Anyone who has trained with Robbins, is essentially a professional
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They are already blaming the victims. The original article quotes a Robbinite follower, that you won't get burned if you are in a "peak state", which of course is a lie. A brazen lie. You don't get burned if there is lots of ash covering the coals acting as an insulator, and you pass over quickly. But Robbins screwed up, got sloppy, and these people BLINDLY walked over re
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They need to find a team of lawyers who work on contingency. The problem there, is all the lawyers care about is getting paid, making a settlement, and agreeing to non-disclosure. This is why the sharks like Tony Robbins and so many others, can do anything they want. And they know it. A shark knows the fishes are at his mercy. The only time a shark like Tony Robbins can get brought down, w
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Many many people have been burned at these events, but its been covered up. But now a possible class action lawsuit from the injured parties as a group will expose the reality of what is really going on. People are simply conned by the supreme Confidence Man Tony Robbins, and walking over coals is just a test to see how gullible these people are. Tony Robbins tries to tell them its mind over
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Some fraudulent crook cult scammers do get brought down, tried, fine, and/or locked up. Search this forum and Google for: "Gentle Wind Project"
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SGI-Japan has their SGI-Blackshirts. Blackshirts Brownshirts
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Freedom of religion, and freedom FROM religion of course need to go together. And the right to criticize these religions and cults openly is essential. Believe it, if this forum was not a proven protected space, as many cults have failed to shut it down SGI-USA would move to censor it and take it down, like SGI has done with other websites. SGI-USA would have this thread removed if they
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There is always one amazing coincidence of these sects...their leaders earn many millions of dollars each year in personal income through their private "spiritual" corporations, and they don't pay any tax, and their families are all living high on the hog, off your money and labor. Byron Katie is running very sophisticated methods, as outline in the other threads. SGI-USA is m
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Its interesting, in many other sects and groups, like Byron Katie, etc, those who break away seem to have always had doubts and kept something in reserve. Example, as part of her process of Identity-fusion with her followers, Byron Katie demands they give her their wedding rings. Yep, Byron Katie takes the wedding rings of her female followers at her seminars. (and they don't get them back.
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Ikeda copied the crude, but effective, early mass-persuasion and "brainwashing" techniques that were used in Japan up to WWII, as well as the Stalinist brainwashing techniques that came after. The comparison to North Korea is right on. North Korea of course, has also studied and implemented similar techniques to use and try to brainwash the followers of the regime. (they just use fea
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24-48 hr group SGI-chanting marathons...that is very severe cultic activity. When you look at dozens and hundreds and hundreds of cults, very few take it that far, only the most extreme. Alot of folks have made the error that SGI is not as bad as the other cults, in fact, its pretty much worse. SGI-USA tried to tone it down a bit, but its still very bad for those more involved. And SGI-
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and if a person wants a better job, or a better relationship, they might consider getting off their butt and doing some work. The more people chant excessively, the WORSE their life is going to get. Its just basic reality. You have a job, and instead of working your tail off to do a great job, and spending extra time preparing for the job, and going above the call of duty, so you are more va
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Apparently, when some internet activists post whistleblowing material about a cult or corporation, they often do it from a cash internet cafe downtown, for access to a generic computer. And they don't post the relevant material from their home computer, in case the sect attempts a personal retaliation against the whistleblower.
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Fake SGI-Chanting 5 hours a day? That is very very deep SGI cultic brainwashing...literally. Daly repetition of a cultic doctrine 5 hours everyday is a very extreme cultic technique. SGI knows everyone wants "love" so they want to link that permanently with SGI. Very diabolical and nefarious. They also know that any normal person is not going to be able to SGI-chant 5 hours a d
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Maybe some activists involved in exposing Desteni will release some of the material to free file hosting websites, so they can be analyzed by those who are exposing Desteni. Anyone can search Google for: free file hosting If they do not have the source code for the software, that would prove that in fact they just took it from the brother. The software could be compared, to see what e
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Report the death and the blog about not drinking water in hot yoga to the local coroner, they might do an investigation. Not drinking water in hot environments will kill you. Hot yoga could be the same as the James Ray deathlodge.
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the deceptive leaders of any sect, the last thing those people need to be shown is love and compassion. Understanding, yes. Understanding that they are simply using and abusing other people to line their own pockets, and make it their lifeswork to deceive others self-consciously. Desteni is potentially a quite dangerous sect as it can be so extreme in its beliefs and actions.
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Maybe some activists or others will do a Desteni-leaks...and upload relevant material on Desteni on free file hosting websites. Anyone can search Google for: free file hosting
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What often happens, is when a cult or sect gets a blog or webpage taken down, someone has saved the information, and it gets reposted in 10x more places than it was at first.
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You see how SGI and other sects and groups (like Byron Katie) deliberately target people who are vulnerable and desperate.
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Suspected that in fact Equal Life Foundation was not a real REGISTERED non-profit, but just an informal private one. Sects and cults in the US do that too. Because if you are a properly registered non-profit, you have to disclose your IRS and other documents to donors. But if you are a private "non-profit" then you are accountable to no one. So many cults and sects run these privat
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So Desteni is now copying Scientology, and may other cults and groups, and setting up deceptive FRONT-GROUPS to push the Desteni message at kids, naive parents and others. Also to try to make cash. so they set-up these bogus FRONTS, and then use them to extract cash from the public, as well as a way to recruit new members into Desteni through the backdoor. Equal Life Foundation To find th
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Its not enough for Ikeda to rob the SGI rich and give to the poor, like Robin Hood. Ikeda has to rob the SGI rich, and rob from the SGI poor too...and pocket both. Its like Caesar and other tyrants, who always raise taxes most on the poorest. Ikeda and SGI knows most people with money are not idiots, and do not throw their money around, only a few do. But they also know, many desperate an
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SGI is truly evil to do this to vulnerable people. Its evil. When you are a multibillionaire like Ikeda and you order your underlings to exploit, manipulate and rob sick, broke, and vulnerable and desperate people, then you know you are EVIL, in the sense of being psychologically sick. SGI targets these desperate people, and then shows them how to do a direct bank transfer of their emergency
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There have been some cases, in where a SGI member is losing their grip on reality from mental illness...and they start to chant extremely obsessively almost constantly all day. It becomes this kind of crazy talisman to them, where they think they can make any problem or issue go away, by chanting under their breath or openly. And they can start to chant faster and faster, perhaps thinking that
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What about being dishonest to get people to go to an SGI meeting? How does SGI coach their members, to get them to tell others its a "party" or a get-together, or it might be a dating singles get-together, or whatever? How does SGI coach its members, to get them to convince new people to come to SGI meetings? How does SGI rationalize the deception and outright lying that comes into
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Oneness of Master and Disciple....that is a BRAINWASHING TECHNIQUE. What "oneness" means in the SGI context, is that the target (you) are supposed to wipe your brain clear, and then slavishly and mindlessly follow the Master. You believe everything he tells you, you replace your beliefs with his beliefs, and you make your mind "one" with his, or that is what you are suppos
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You have to love how the SGI cultic propagandists hedge their lies. "After the dinner, Mineo-san presented every men attended the dinner with a piece of Sensei’s necktie. This necktie, which either Sensei used before, or being with Sensei before..." So they bought some neckties at Walmart, and put the package of them in Sensei's hotel room for 5 minutes, cut them up, and
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