Retrieving posts from Internet Archive and Google/Bing cache That shows how to get the threads back, if they are stored on Google. Post that link around the forum, in case people want to get their thread back. For this thread, for example. Remember to press the little CACHED arrow, which is beside the link Desteni page=106 site:forum.culteducation.com Desteni page=110 site:f
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Share this link around the forum, so people can get their threads back if they want. Retrieving posts from Internet Archive and Google/Bing cache This is the easiest method, it seems, to paste into Google, which applies to any thread. "Werner Erhard family tree" page=1 site:forum.culteducation.com "Werner Erhard family tree" page=2 site:forum.culteducation.c
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Also, to retrieve any posts from the Google cache, its very simple. 1) go the the Google search box. 2) paste the KEYWORDS you are looking for, followed by the site: operator, which searches the site. In this example, using the word DESTENI as the keyword. desteni site:forum.culteducation.com 3) press search, that gives you many links, and if you press the tiny arrow beside the li
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ok figured out how to find the other pages using search operators. 1) go to the standard Google search box. 2) put the title of the thread in QUOTES as a specific phrase, and then use the SITE: operator. In this case you post this into the Google search. "Werner Erhard family tree" site:forum.culteducation.com 3) that gives you 2 links, if you press the tiny cache arrow be
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Here is another example of how to retrieve threads from the Google cache, and then copy them. This same method can be used for any thread of course. --------------- the cached info from this link is still available at the link below. Its unfortunate that more threads have not been copied from the Google cache, almost all of them are there, but it takes a little know-how to get
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the cached info from this link is still available at the link below. Copy it before its gone! Its unfortunate that more threads have not been copied from the Google cache, almost all of them are there, but it takes a little know-how to get at them. For example, in this case you.. 1) copy the original link 2) paste that link into the Google search bar, and press search. 3) t
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Search Google for this phrase, and then press CACHE arrow beside the result, and the old thread is still there to be copied. ---------------------- The downside of yoga - Cult Education also can put the link below into the Google search box, and then press the cache link.
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It seems no one is retrieving recent posts from the Google cache or Bing cache, so once those are over-written, they are gone forever. After that, there are some posts up at the Internet Archive. The Supreme Master thread is not as bad, the Internet Archive has at least up to page 54. Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda (to page 54) How the
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Well, this Supreme Master thread is not as bad, the Internet Archive has at least up to page 54. Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda (to page 54) Someone should copy those pages back into the thread, in order, if they have time. How the Internet Archive works, is that it has taken snapshots of the website over time, so you have to click around o
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If you click through the different dates at the Internet Archive, most of the posts are saved there. Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity (to page 420) July 31 2013
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If you click through the different dates at the Internet Archive, most of the material is saved there. July 31 2013 --------------------------------- Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity (to page 420)
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Just so people know, you can browse a lot of the old thread at the Internet Archive. This goes up to page 528 on this thread. There might be other captures that go to a further date, if people click around and see under each date.
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People can retrieve most of the posts from the internet search engine caches and also the Internet Archive, but the posts from the caches can be overwritten at any second, so they would need to be saved right now.
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and of course it goes without saying that someone should have checked the backups before all the files were permanently deleted! Hard to comprehend.
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People could save some posts if they use Google cache and Bing cache, to view and copy offline webpages. But those could vanish at any moment, so they need to copy them immediately. There is also content up on the internet archive. ------------------------ has been crawled 906 times going all the way back to May 23, 2004.
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People could save some posts if they use Google cache and Bing cache, to view and copy offline webpages. But those could vanish at any moment, so they need to copy them immediately. There is also content up on the internet archive. has been crawled 906 times going all the way back to May 23, 2004.
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If anyone sees an obituary from a non-Desteni source, please post the link. It looks like the family wants to continue the Desteni family business, it remains to be seen who will take over.
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So is Bernard Poolman admitting in writing, that there has been a suicide (or suicides) of Desteni members? So the Desteni group is trying to blame others for any suicides from members of Desteni? How many suicides of members of Desteni have there been? Is there a pattern of suicides for some members of Desteni? If so, of course the public needs to be notified of those facts. Do the
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It looks like all of the internal links within the site, and external links to the site will become dead links. Rick Ross Feud: The Battle Over Who Will Own Rickross.com By Terrence McCoy Mon., May 13 2013
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None of the big name self-help Gurus will sign that pledge. That would interfere with their legal waivers. And don't forget, some of the names on that list TRAINED James Arthur Ray in his methods. They taught him how to do it. Just watch James Arthur Ray open up his live seminar business the day after he is released from prison.
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20 grand from Youtube is a lot for one year!! Is there a reference for that?
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Guys like Stuart Wilde are simply con-artists. Stuart Wilde was preaching for years about "Miracles" and "dematerialization" and other loads of BS, simply to dupe credulous followers for profit. Meanwhile he apparently is dead, like another else of course. There are a couple links popping up now that Stuart Wilde is "alive" in South Africa, probably just pra
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Master Po didn't need to buy 300 cheesy fake "degrees" to try to get some respect either! Master Po also didn't run a private for-profit Ikeda family corporation the size of Walmart. "Master" in those terms, is a leader who has "mastered" his discipline, like a martial arts master, or anyone who is a master in their field. But with SGI, Master is u
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In reality, the concept is more like Master/"Slave" psychologically and economically. How many SGI members do years of unpaid labor for SGI, which is worth countless billions of dollars? SGI has billions in the private asset holdings of the Ikeda family, all made off the backs of unpaid labor of SGI followers. What is unpaid labor called? Definition of SLAVE 2: one that is c
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SGI tells people that "self-improvement through subordinating your will to the organization" is what they must do, because every single sect or cult wants people to subordinate their will to the Org/Leader. That is the entire point! SGI just tries to dress it up a bit with Master/follower. But its the same as any other sect...Obey the Mother-ship...subordinating your will...follow o
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Someone should add a category, or change the line in Wiki about who has the most Hon Degrees. Ikeda might have the most of anyone? 300? It should say that "Dr." Ikeda has the most. It would be good to give Ikeda that crown, as it shows what a laughingstock he is to anyone outside of SGI.
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Wiki says that: "Charles Malik, the UN General Assembly president, and co-author of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, received no less than sixty-three honorary doctoral degrees. His original title was "doctor", as he had earned a PhD from Harvard. Malik has the highest number of honorary doctoral degrees." Have they not heard of Ikeda? He's got like 300
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A tip came in that this Canadian TV program does investigations into consumer scams. So anyone located in Canada that has been scammed by Desteni and given them money, could file a complaint to this TV program, and they could do an investigative piece on the Desteni scam. There is contact info below. www.cbc.ca/marketplace/episodes/contact
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Sounds like these alleged "writers" at whimsymedia.com are either totally naive, completely incompetent in "journalism", or simply work in advertising directly, (or through brown envelopes full of cash), and publish the press release of whoever pays. When cults use sex to manipulate people, that is very dangerous territory. Worse, when they use sex to lure vulnerable peopl
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Sounds like Poolman and the Destini owners are cooking up another scamola to bilk followers out of more money. How? Get the followers worked up about fake "hate speech" that doesn't exist, then tell the followers they need to hire expensive lawyers to create "an legal Action group"(sic). That will require hundreds of thousands of dollars. So they will bilk the fol
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