QuotecorboyTo balance the orthodox Christian assessment of Acharya S given above, here is a discussion of Acharya S among persons who are sympathetic to gnostic or mythicist views on Christ/Christianaity-- but have reservations about her opus. What’s with Acharya S. Share your thoughts on the written word. Post a reply7 posts • Page 1 of 1 What’s with Acharya S. Post #1 by Chadvood
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QuoteDavidWish The bullshit stops here. 1. Restore the deleted post showing anonymous direction being deceptive. 2. Apologize, with a detailed explanation, the wrong doing. 3. Make the necessary corrections for all members to be “inoculated” from an abusive cultist environment within TZM. Fail to do so and TZM will continue to be an abusive cult. 1. I already offered to re-post the whole
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QuotePrometheuspanI am not a moderator, but i will answer this question. Having secret moderators is absolutely a red flag. If thats going on here its still a red flag. Having secret moderators means no accountability, no transparency, and no possibility for dealing with abuse. Since your forum operates in any case via an ad hominem double standard and since you are an ad hominem junkie, what goe
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Banning you from an internet forum is not abuse.
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Banning you from an internet forum is not abuse man.
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I see this conversation is not exactly proving to be a reflection of any sort of objective study. These are the points that Mr. Ross asked me to make. 1. Having anonymous moderators does not make an organization a cult. 2. Define any actual abuse taking place. Denying someone access to a web forum does not count. 3. This forum itself has anonymous moderators. What I see here is an
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So is anyone going to address the points I have made? Or is the extent of this conversation going to be spamming articles at one another that are for and against the Zeitgeist Movement? Does having anonymous moderators make a group a cult? (Is this group therefore a cult?) As that is the entire foundation of Mr. Wish's accusation, I would like an answer to this question.
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QuoteDavidWishVTV, I am going to be totally straight with you. I addressed everything. I can assure you that no rational mind agrees with you. They messed you up. I'm sorry. I can't help you. OK, going to address this one more time. I spoke to Rick Ross, the expert who runs this website today. I tried to post this here, for some reason it became it's own thread. First
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QuoteDavidWishVTV, I am going to be totally straight with you. I addressed everything. I can assure you that no rational mind agrees with you. They messed you up. I'm sorry. I can't help you. David, I posed the exact same argument that Mr. Ross suggested I pose to you. And that is thus: This forum has anonymous moderators. Meaning this ANTI-CULT forum. Your entire argument
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Is the Zeitgeist Movement a cult? By Neil Kiernan a.k.a VTV Where did the accusations start that the Zeitgeist Movement was a cult? Well as most unfounded statements about the Zeitgeist movement it usually starts with someone who is angry because they were banned from the forums for being jerks. The next phase of this generally leads to them going from being ardent supporters of the RBE and T
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Quoteshaktihttp://www.tabletmag.com/news-and-politics/57732/brave-new-world/ Brave New World The Zeitgeist movement is the first Internet-based apocalyptic cult, centered around a doomsday-proclaiming film and an ideology filled with classic anti-Semitic tropes By Michelle Goldberg | Feb 2, 2011 7:00 AM A moment in Zeitgeist: Moving Forward. Over the last two weeks, Zeitgeist: Mo
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I wanted to share an exchange that is going on right now on Facebook with a user who kind of dubiously reminds me of David Wish. I do not mean this to be insulting to Mr. Wish and this should not be considered an attack. However as we are all just people on the internet it is often easy to create false idenities on the internet to pursue an agenda. This is what he said when asked to provide proof
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First of all, allow me be clear. Mr. Ross does not endorse the Zeitgeist Movement, and does not want to taken as such. He has not had a chance to really investigate the Zeitgeist Movement. However he made it very clear in our conversation today the following: 1. Having anonymous moderators does NOT make an organization a cult. (And in fact, this forum has anonymous moderators.) 2. There is
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QuotecorboyGerman media networks have reason to be concerned because Germany not only has suffered from the effects of Nazi terrorism but, during 1968-1977, suffered from Communist terrorism as well. The Baader Meinhof group and the Red Army Fraktion (RAF) exerted a reign of terror and murder during that time and the memory is still fresh. Here is an academic study of the terror years fr
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QuoteDavidWish QuoteYou say you, "use the scientific method", but that does not mean a thing here. Many cults base ideas on scientific methods. It is not the issue being discussed here. If you are trying to say that because ZM uses science it cannot be a cult, then clearly it is indicated that you should consult someone skilled at deprogramming, if you want help. Please first of all
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Quotejames kushThe Zeitgeist has been removed by the largest social network in europe because the anti-semite accusations warranted removal: Again, please provide some evidence of anti-Semitic behavior? As in actual hatred against Jews in the Zeitgeist movement material? Again, this is silly. The Zeitgeist has an ISRAELI CHAPTER. And Jacque Fresco is of JEWISH DESCENT. This doesn't eve
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QuotecorboyThere are Jewish Holocaust/Shoah Denialists, so Israeli Jews are probably vulnerable to cultic milieu stuff as well. Anti Zionist Jews greeted Holocaust deniar in New York Ahmadinejad Greeted by Anti-Zionist Jews in New York so..some Jews who had an anti Zionist stance were willing to attend a Holocaust denial conference. So..if such mental contortions are possibl
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Not sure why that got posted in it's own thread. It was meant for the thread about the Zeitgeist movement. Sorry for the confusion.
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This forum behaves a bit oddly. Posts take a long time to show up sometimes leading me to believe they were not posted (Which is the reason for some of the double posts in this thread). And this was supposed to be posted here: I looked over the list of warning signs and considered doing a much longer post about this, but I realized it really was not necessary. So I am going to go over a few k
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Quoteshaktihttp://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/1/14/92946/9451 Loughner, “Zeitgeist - The Movie,” and Right-Wing Antisemitic Conspiracism Chip Berlet Fri Jan 14, 2011 at 09:29:46 AM EST A friend of Jared Lee Loughner says that the alleged shooter in the Tucson terror attack was impressed by “Zeitgeist - The Movie,” one of the most popular conspiracy videos posted on the Internet. Si
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I looked over the list of warning signs and considered doing a much longer post about this, but I realized it really was not necessary. So I am going to go over a few key points. 1. One of the reasons for the confusion over what our organization is is because we state that we are not a "political movement". But in practice we are a political activist organization in the same context
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QuoterrmoderatorVTV: I have not agreed to do your radio show. We spoke very briefly by phone and I suggested if you have issues with posts at this message board you can exercise free speech and respond. But there are rules at this message board, which you agreed to before posting here. Personal attacks directed at members of this board is a violation of those rules. If you wish to
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QuoteDavidWishIf Peter Joseph is the site adimn, and does not apoligize and make the necessary corrections, he will go down in history as being on the level of all other cultist leaders that destroyed people. More "Appeal to fear fallacy" you have yet to demonstrate how having anonymous moderators who kick people off our forums for abusing people is going to "destroy" anyone
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QuoteDavidWishIf Peter Joseph is the site adimn, and does not apoligize and make the necessary corrections, he will go down in history as being on the level of all other cultist leaders that destroyed people. More "appeal to fear" fallacy. How exactly is Peter Joseph going to "destroy" people?
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QuoteDavidWish QuoteAny organization not confronting it being a cult, deleting information relating to it being a cult, having people in the position of directing others anonymously, as the moderators there are anonymous, is a cult, by definition. It's interesting how this works. So we are a cult if we don't confront it, AND we are a cult if we DO confront it. This is why I see some p
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QuoteDavidWishCorboy, Thank you for your hard work researching this current cult. I became a memeber of their forum yesterday and had to pass a test, just to post and speak my opinion. Just like you said, "Key question: is free exchange of ideas and disagreements possible? Or are discussions controlled." The answer is yes. I posted this on their webiste this morning. They ar
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David, your entire argument for calling us a cult was extremely weak. This was your first post, I have put some seriously erroneous statements by you in bold: QuoteDavid WishAs I have been looking into The Zeitgeist Movement on these message boards, I have come across multiple issues that indicate that this group has already spiraled into a cult mentally. The picture attached shows that the mod
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David, your entire argument for calling us a cult was extremely weak. This was your first post, I have put some seriously erroneous statements by you in bold: QuoteDavid WishAs I have been looking into The Zeitgeist Movement on these message boards, I have come across multiple issues that indicate that this group has already spiraled into a cult mentally. The picture attached shows that the mod
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I can save you the trouble. I have no problem just repasting the conversation here.
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