QuoteEnowQuoteApolloQuoteEnowQuoterrmoderator Some people just have the bad luck to run into someone like McKay. I sure did. I did an internet search for truth seekers forum and then modified it to Jesus Christ forums and this Jesus Christians forum popped up. I had joined only to find that I was at odds with the moderator Dave. From the first post I was under heavy moderation except for th
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QuoteEnowQuoterrmoderator Some people just have the bad luck to run into someone like McKay. I sure did. I did an internet search for truth seekers forum and then modified it to Jesus Christ forums and this Jesus Christians forum popped up. I had joined only to find that I was at odds with the moderator Dave. From the first post I was under heavy moderation except for the Introduction part
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I sincerely hope JosDav takes some time to view those resources. Wellspring certainly looks like a wonderful facility which may be of help. All the best.
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What led to your departure? What were the circumstances? Were you given financial assistance when you left the cult? Was your departure at all related to your sales figures?
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JosDav, What can you tell us about your departure from the cult?
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Not a brainwasher? Try telling that to Sheila Johnson. I think you should go and read the Johnson's thread on the Jesus Christians forum and then get back to me.
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Welcome aboard, JosDav. Things are pretty much as they were it would seem. They're still working in small teams though each team now has it's own identity. No doubt this is an attempt to seek new followers without having the JCs baggage hanging over them. The JCs forum is now a private forum which doesn't get much traffic nowadays. Dave and Glenn are the only people associat
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QuoteThe JCs have not been successful in recruitment despite a serious increase in their recruitment methods such as DVDs, internet video posting, etc. I ascribe this to 2 things. 1) The amount of negative publicity available on the internet at the RR site, the xJC site, etc, and 2) Dave's recent departure from subtlety. His attacks and lies have become much more transparent to the
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Glenn Griffiths has been one of the cults most vocal apologists for a number of years now so I think it's important that newcomers to the thread are given some background info. However, now that we've dealt with that we can now concentrate on Dave McKay and his cult. Have you heard any more from the person who complained about the Truth Believers, moderator?
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Glenn Griffiths is once again making various false claims on the xjcs forum. In case we have any newcomers to the thread who may not be aware of this gentleman's connection here – Glenn Griffiths is a very close associate of the Jesus Christians and has been for some time. He has come very close to joining the cult on various occasions. For a very long time now he has made it his duty to
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Quoteseekinginfo As far as the pamphlet he was handing out, I can only share from memory what it was about, as my son took it. It was called "What does it mean to follow Jesus?" and it listed several teachings of Jesus, with a lot of commentary after each teaching listed. My son claims he does not have the pamphlet anymore, so I can't destroy it. What's worse is that he knows
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Laura, you can read more about The Jesus Christians here. You'll find various disturbing stories about members donating kidneys. A large majority of their members have donated a kidney. This is something their leader Dave McKay (former member of the notorious ''Children of God'') coerces them into doing. It is believed the cult has raised thousands of pounds by doi
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Hi Laura, The name Scott doesn't ring a bell. The Jesus Christians have gone underground for the last 18 months though so it's possible they've found new members during this period. Can you tell us which website you've been looking at? Thanks
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Welcome to the forum, Laura. Can you please describe the pamphlet? Did the gentleman tell you his name? It's possible you were speaking to a member of the Jesus Christians. They claim they 'work for love and not money'. What they actually do though is plead for donations on the street whilst also cheating the benefits system. They also claim they 'dedicate their l
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Here is a photo for identification purposes. Grace is on the left and the Kronmiller twins (Jayme and Jeremy) are behind her. You can see a more recent picture of Grace earlier in the page. One of the Kronmiller twins can be seen being whipped from 04:00 onwards in the following clip. This was part of a Jesus Christians cult ritual in July last year. The two Kronmiller twins and
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QuotezeuszorIf these kids want to roll around the country, crashing with the Catholic Workers and going to Occupy rallies and Rainbow Gatherings, then I say let 'em. They'll grow out of it eventually. Look, the only ones who I am concerned about monitoring are the old man and his consort, Dave and Cherry McKay. Have we any word on what they are doing, or where they are? They'
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She made a post on her blog around a month before her wedding stating that she planned to leave the Catholic Workers and hit the road again. TUESDAY, MARCH 22, 2011 In my last post, I mentioned that I would be leaving the LACW this spring, to hit the road once again. I'm excited to get back to the nomadic lifestyle that has shaped my adult life. --------------------------------
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QuotezeuszorGrace is with the Catholic Workers in L.A. now. Here is something about it that is still online (notice how it refers to him as a JC): We were privileged to host the wedding Catholic Worker Grace Hill-Speed and Jesus Christian Jayme Kronmiller, at our regular Wednesday liturgy. We wish them Joy on there future adventures! She still has some association with the Catholic W
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QuoteApollo The above post was made roughly six weeks ago. Just for the record the ''Melbourne Weasel'' was in fact Mr Glenn Griffiths. As we all know Mr Griffiths has been known to lie in the past so I took what he had say with a pinch of salt. However, recent developments suggest Glenn wasn't too far from the truth. Initially Glenn had asked to remain anonymous due to
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They have previously posted a small blog titled “Lauryn Hill -Mystery of Iniquity MTV Unplugged”. This whole album has been a huge inspiration over the years to the authors of this blog. We obviously can’t speak for Lauryn Hill, but many ideas she shares thru her music often speaks OUR mind(s)… ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Googling that email address also leads us to another site where they have posted an appeal for somewhere to park their RV. Post ID 19433091 Type WANTED Subject Looking for a place to park a 25 ft RV Location Near or around Downtown LA Description Hi all! My twin, his wife, and I are traveling artist/missionaries, (don't worry, we won't preach to you!) living in our RV and wer
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If you look at the home page you'll see they provide an email address for anyone looking to contact them -- lookupwaytothesky@gmail.com. If you google that email address it leads us to a blog where someone using the above email address posts a comment.
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QuoteApolloI've recently received the following emails from the ''Melbourne Weasel'': Date:Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:11 For your eyes only. For me to get the best information, keep your mouth fucking shut,about who gave you this info. There seems to be 2 break away groups. The Truth Believers are operating and organised in europe and united kingdom. No concrete evidenc
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QuotezeuszorCome on man, there's no need for sarcasm here. Look at it like an Easter-egg hunt. ;-) Yeah, but at least with an Easter egg hunt you have a nice chocolate egg waiting for you at the end of it. All i'll get at the end of this is some perverted rant from McKay!
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QuotezeuszorJust look for it. You are sharp, you'll find it. Oh i'm terribly sorry, zeuszor. I certainly wouldn't want to put you out.
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Hello Private Eyes, Can you please contact me. It's very important. Thank you
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QuotezeuszorApollo, do you know of the old "Does Evil Exist?" thread? If not, then look that up. It's classic DM. Is it on the JCs forum?
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McKay has written a rather lengthy article on his favourite subjects, masturbation, sexual fantasies and paedophilia. It gives a fascinating (and disturbing) insight into the mind of this dirty old pervert. It is not normal for one to be so obsessed with masturbation, sexual fantasies and peadophilia, but then again, he's not normal. Keeping in mind his soft approach towards paedophilia
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Adrian, Do you believe the Jesus Christians are a destructive and dangerous cult?
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''What can we do to persuade him or move him into the light?'' My goodness, surely a wind-up? You want to try and change Dave McKay, a 67 year old conman who has been hustling and bustling all his days? I've heard it all now. Away and have a lie down Adrian.
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