Frankly that sounds like nonsense and a bit Troll like, the topic here is to identify and discuss DW cult tendancies, methods of manipulation and bring to the surface its real agenda as a cult of personality. I came here looking for objectiveness, so far I have found that but from time to time there has been some distraction (engineered) which smells of cult behaviour. Perhaps we can continue
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I have recently seen something very interesting, unfortunately you cannot access this news letter from the DW site without registering so unless you can access a center or the web based news you will have to rely on my brief highlight of what is said by Ole Nydahl: In short the latest news letter congratulates everyone on achieving what is regarded as the establishment of 600 DW centers. After
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Dave; Complaining is not the issue here, if you read back you will see that information relayed here has come from either those who were once devoted and those who have been drawn in through friends or family and this information has attempted to introduce an objective view. I for one cannot discuss the issues posted here with someone who is devoted because in simple terms, my views are seen a
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Quote: Valontin "There is no obligatory annual membership. There are many people who are coming to the centers - for years without giving any money. Also it is not necessary to buy any books, because usually they are available in the library of the local center - free for rent. Also it is not necessary to buy any photographs, I am such example." Unfortunately I have not seen th
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Quote: "In my observation for the last 10 years, the result of Lama Ole`s activity is more independent, strong and joyful people, who actually are doing much for others." Lama Ole's activities have done many things for those within the Diamond way only, Diamond Way does not do anything for society as a whole. Diamond Way has given Trinley Thaye Dorje's parents a comfor
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I think this is much more interesting than having a bun fight about fake pictures and generally detracting from the threads, I havent finished reading but have seen enough to confirm many points raised here over the recent months, this article is also current. Read on:
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Cult or no Cult, sex abuse or no sex abuse, DW has a 'founder and director' or may we use the term leader, this is made clear on the DW home page. Any institution led in an irresponsible manner will be riddled with irresponsible acts as they are considered acceptable. This, as mentioned earlier on in these threads is where DW raises question marks and concerns amongst some. I am not s
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Further reading that may open the lineage saga: The Dance of 17 lives by Mick Brown Bloomsbury Publishing PLC; Re-issue edition (4 April 2005)
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Quote: "Of course not every Buddhist is fully realized Buddha, so maybe there are some people with other ideas and views, but the goal is enlightenment for the benefit of others." This is exactly where things get mixed up and perhaps some disciples, followers, etc can mis-understand the concepts of good and bad karma as only good (personal) karma is encouraged in the DW group (the
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First of all, thanks to Hao and Sam for their contributions but they I have to say each is missing the point I am raisin, or should I say points, however by their posts they admit to the faults pretty much word for word. QuoteHaoHi All I am another member of DW. I found this site trough google alerts, set on “Ole Nydahl”. First of all, I must say to Outsider, I do not know your friend no
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Quotesam108 I'd also like to comment on claims of "sexual abuse". I think some people misinterpret both the open attitude to relationships which is common (but not compulsory) in the Diamond Way community, and also the traditional Tantric Buddhist spiritual approach to sexuality. Some people like the idea of openness in relationships; other people find that concept hard to fat
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DW demonstrates the classic franchise model, offer the basics but make the customer feel more worthwhile with the extravagent add ons that they cannot refuse, a money earner every time. Why am I so hung up on the financial issue, imagine knowing someone who has never been in debt but within months of joining a DW centre starts to rack up the credit card debt on trips and demonstrates a 20% of
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Experiences come from those of us willing to contribute and there is enough material out there that covers some recent threads in this forum: The first thing which is misleading is, that he spread the idea of being realised, this charisma of being a realised bodhisattva (Mahakala) is used and designed in order to give him a stronger standing, without explaining Karmapas historical quotation in
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My experiences comes as an 'uncovertable' and this is I agree presents what I will write being biased on my objective. I have seen DW as very commercially based, so lets say we are talking about a Scam rather than a Cult or a nice mix of the 2. I have not seen one ocassion where money was not required and the practices encouraged and fostered always require you move to the next step thr
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This forum should not be dictated by a requirement to have any in depth knowledge of Tibetan Buddhism, come on you use the term objective and then state that unless one has a thorough knowledge of Tibetan Buddhism they have no right to be contributing. The basic fact missed by many forums here is that Buddhism and more specific Tibetan Buddhism is not a western belief or religion and is adopted,
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