Quotecultreporter ...... I always wondered what a fire sacrfice for a KC marriage was like and wondered what got burned. Now I know in SOI it is your previous marriage certificate. :lol: :D LMFAO - That's a good one, Reporter!!! :lol: :lol: :D
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:!: Better yet, the parents of God's only representative on Earth probably made love for the purpose of PLEASURE rather than begetting children! :!: :!: :!: :!:
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QuotezeligQuoteemntkhttp://www.molokaiadvertiser-news.com/MAN_4-19-06_.pdf Dr. Willis Butler Jnr (Physician, Activist, Author) had lived on Molokai and currently lives back in Kailua Oahu if he is still alive. He was alive at 87 in April 2006 so some of the dates Cara posted had refered to Willis P. Butler Snr. BULLSEYE emntk! All the facts match up. Molokai childhood. Activist father.
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Those damn queers! They must have reprogrammed the computers! :lol: Yes, J. Guru criticizes the merchants for trying to make some money over the Christmas season ... meanwhile he is profiting from the sales of tofu turkeys, non-alcoholic beer, fancy sweetmeats and Christmas turnips as sold at his chain of grocery stores! The followers do not seem to see the hypocrisy here. :roll:
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QuotecultreporterRR if I may ask, as I think this may be of interest to others who follow this thread.. With the viewing count does it go up if the same person changes pages within the thread (like if they click through 20 pages it counts 20 views) or only on entry to the thread? No matter which, it looks like there are a lot of people following this thread. I wonder who all these people a
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QuotecultreporterYou will notice the matching details below - Dr Willis Butler was born in Lousiana, moved to Hawaii and had a son named Bruce. Ash scored a goal! Amazing bit of research, there, Ash! Would match with what Zelig said about being in the left wing and a connection to Allan Ginsberg(?).... However, there is still the possibility that all this could be coincidental though, as B
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Quotecultreporter I do have a few potential (some quite promising) skeletons I am hoping to bring out of Siddha's closet. The million dollar question is - quite literally - where did all the money come from? There is no way that a stoned out surfer had the finances to back this guru business. SOI is a minor cult but the $$ are major. My impression is that all the money originally came
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Quotecultreporter Dr Thomas Butler - specialist in infectious diseases Good sleuthing, Reporter!... But I doubt if this Dr. Thomas Butler is the father of Chris - because Chris is almost 60 years old - that would put his father at around at least 80 years old - quite possibly not even living any more. :D That would have been a good one, though - infectious bacteria :!: :!:
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QuoteprivateyeMy sources tell me that the campaign manager of Mike Gabbard is also a long time follower of Chris Butler. His name is Devin Bull, his wife's name is Kunti ( a Hare Krishna name). Anyone like to share information on this. Where is Devin Bull from? How long has he been in the cult? Does he have an indoctrinated hare krishna name? More like "DIVINE BULL" :!:
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Quotecultreporter I will never ever forget last Christmas with SOI..... Interesting to note that in 1980 the focus was solely against the Christians, whereas in 2004 the focus was mostly against the fags with some mention of politics and the war on terror! :arrow: This is the point that we were trying to make about the changes in J. Guru's focus and the tangents he was going off on.
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Those of us who were involved with the group for many years will remember how each Christmas, the devotees would have a celebration, chanting "JESUS, JESUS, JESUS" (which sounded real CORNY!), and then of course the annual Christmas speech by the guru... He criticizes people for making Christmas too "commercial" and taking Jesus and religion out of the festivity, stating th
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QuotezeligRasha Kishka das, Look in the mirror. Perhaps it is you whose mind is “full of violence, perverted sex ideas, greed, and illusions”? It certainly describes the mind and actions of CB (e.g., Ninjai, homophobia, faked sex scandal against opposing politician, jet plane rides, prime real estate, accepting worship, germ phobia, false prophesies, paranoia……). .... I REST MY CASE.
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QuoteRadha Krishna das You do not agree that one is better off to have a brain that is filled with God than thoughts of sex, empty material desires, delusions of movies, rock music, gossip, violence etc. I do agree. As mentioned previously, I for one have no beef with the positive points of the religion (and you probably know more about beef than most of us here :D )... after all, I was a s
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QuotejogravesI have a few questions for RKD, since he talks with great authority and seems to think he has the answers: QuoteToenails are maha prashadam - purifying. I have had the glory of eating them myself. Someone tell me something; is this typical of most guru-run groups, this toenail eating thing? I've never heard of it before, from any religion, anywhere. The only thing similar that
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QuoteprivateyeQuotejules In all the political campaigns including Rick Reeds, Wayne Nishiki, Katyayani, Carol Gabbard and Mike Gabbard, every advertisment media article, promotion will be screened or even written by Prabufraud. . "Republican challenger Rick Reed ran a splashy campaign featuring an ad with hairdresser Lenore Kwock's claim that Inouye had forced himself on her sexuall
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Quotecultreporter If Krishna answers prayers and prayers do not come true, what is one suppossed to believe? I have heard JG speak on this subject before - about how we should not see God as our "waiter" - give me this, give me that, and of course condemning and putting down the "so-called Christians" who pray "Give us our daily bread." ... And of course JG says t
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QuotecultreporterQuotejust-googlingAnother mind boggler is this - the billions and billions of cells within your body are ALL spirit souls also! The numbers are staggering!!! I have never heard this before. So we are NOT spirit soul but actually billions of spirit souls?? :shock: The way I understand it is this: Yes, of course We are also a single spirit soul, but our bodies are made up
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QuotefishHello, who writes that my quote is abit fishy?and the timing also?why do you say this? Sorry, fish! It's just that on the other thread things are getting a bit heavy. I thought that maybe someone had started a new fresh thread to discredit some of the things that are being posted on the first thread. Or maybe someone from the group was starting this thread to try and reduce th
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Reporter: yes, the question about grass and their souls is a good one - I never could figure that one out either! Another mind boggler is this - the billions and billions of cells within your body are ALL spirit souls also! The numbers are staggering!!! :?
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Private-eye: Apparently this attempt of Rick Reed to blacken Inouye's character backfired big-time. And of course it was Mr. Butler's idea - this is very typical of his style! And also it was becoming common knowledge throughout the islands that Rick was a total puppet of Butler's at that time. I also heard through the grapevine that Rick's wife, who also worked in t
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QuotefishHello, I am a exmember of jagad guru,chris butlers cult.Just for the record none of Mike Gabbards kids are gay or him.And this group is a brainwashing cult.Feel free to ask me questions.I WILL SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT FOR YOU. :arrow: Sounds a bit "fishy" - the timing of this thread is also a bit fishy :?:
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QuotejogravesI have a few questions for RKD, since he talks with great authority and seems to think he has the answers: QuoteToenails are maha prashadam - purifying. I have had the glory of eating them myself. Someone tell me something; is this typical of most guru-run groups, this toenail eating thing? I've never heard of it before, from any religion, anywhere. The only thing similar that
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Quoteemntk"My baby is coughing... It's irrelevant... So why concern yourself with things that are not worthy to be concerned about?" Err.. this was a lecture Siddha gave on the unimportance of anything except Guru and Krishna. Yep, it's irrelevant if your baby is coughing... but if Chris is coughing, it is the end of the world .... the whole world is CURSED! :roll:
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Quoteemntk Did JG expect you not to drink water? I can't remember the exact directive. Not sure if it was fast from solid food only, or fast from food and water... Could have possibly been fast from food and water, which could explain why I felt so guilty drinking water the next day.... Anybody out there who was around in 1990 who can confirm this or negate this? As we all know,
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QuoteDhruva das ......... The girls that she lived with and other members of Science Of Identity could not accept this. She was thrown out of her house, her belongings were just put out on the front step while she was out, and these girls that she thought were her friends refused to speak to her ever again. She received constant phone calls and e-mails from disciples telling her that she was maki
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Quotecultreporter Just Googling - I really think there is a need for some serious concern here. Do you know what the outcome of this order to fast for 6 months was? Did he seriously expect people to continue with it beyond the point where it was ridiculous to just plain dangerous or even life threatening? ... I received a phone call later the next day, saying that, no, we were not expected to
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The funny thing is that I used to think exactly like our RKd is now thinking... Things started changing around 1990 when I received a phone call saying that Guru wanted his disciples to fast for six months becuase the slaves were late with his breakfast. I was quite upset by this, thinking that ACB had never acted like this, but indeed I did start to fast and I felt extremely guilty when I too
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QuoteRadha Krishna das Anyone speaking about Science of Identity as they do here on this board is leading people into hell. Maybe that includes ACB himself for speaking out against Siddha's PSYCHIC SLEEP project??? :wink:
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QuoteRadha Krishna das Anyone speaking about Science of Identity as they do here on this board is leading people into hell. And the Catholics will tell us that all of us here will go to hell becuase we do not go to Mass on Sundays! :D Who knows whether God loves the Pope more than Swami Beyondananda - the answer is blowing in the wind... (Some people say that God luvs us all equally, can
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QuoteTheTruthAsItIsMy Dear Friends (Rama, Cult, Googling, Zelig, Ross) ...... WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO KNOW THAT WE SUPPPORT YOU always, IN OUR TAXES BECAUSE People LIKE YOU FALLS INTO SOME OBSCURE CATEGORY LIKE "save the world". We would like you to know that despite your imaginationary wonderings we actually support cults you, we sustain you, in the betterment of humankind, because we
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