QuoteThe AnticultBut all that being said, I don't believe I am breaking the rules of this forum, and going too far. If so, they can simply delete those posts, that's fine with me. But I gots to follow my own instincts and be honest. I don't think you've broken the rules of this forum either, Anticult. I've found you to be incredibly helpful to this discussion. I hope you
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Quotejj52Quotehelpme2timesQuotejj52Oh, duh. Since you apparently didn't understand my post at all, I feel pretty safe in saying that you did not hear me. -jj JJ! Saying stuff like "Oh, duh" is hardly modeling the civility that you're begging from us. That be's my opinion. And I'd like to add... BK, if she is watching any of this, is likely loving the divers
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Quotejj52Oh, duh. Since you apparently didn't understand my post at all, I feel pretty safe in saying that you did not hear me. -jj JJ! Saying stuff like "Oh, duh" is hardly modeling the civility that you're begging from us. That be's my opinion. And I'd like to add... BK, if she is watching any of this, is likely loving the diversion away from examining th
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I'd like to add in my 2 cents... I'm one of the folks who got taken in by Byron Katie's approach. Some of the people expressing themselves here have NOT been in this position. Which doesn't at all mean that they can't or shouldn't have their say. In fact, for me some of the most helpful/informative comments have come from these people. (Sorry if that sou
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QuoteThe ShadowQuoteJon WillisHi Anticult, Looking back on my initial post I can see how the 'free online' thing could be seen as pushing that - sadly, that wasn't my intention, that was more about stressing that I'm not a 'paid out loads of money on workshops, etc' person. Jon So, please, please please, tell me what is your intention for posting here? Peo
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QuotevlindenThis is of course a reference to her absurd session with the poor Israeli woman that you can watch on You Tube, if you can keep your lunch down, that is. BK attempts to replace the woman's brain with a bunch of daffodils. Fascinating stuff.Speaking of You Tube, check out this video of Byron Katie regarding her 9-day "school". Very culty imo.
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Someone passed this on to me, from a post made several years ago in a forum dealing with cults... QuoteX says to me, "You could also check out Byron Katie" and gives a link to click on. I clicked and noticed that the website starts with a lovely introduction, with music and words to represent the things Byron assumes, perhaps rightly, that most of us have going through our hea
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QuoteThe AnticultCarol Skolnick and "Jon Willis" having a chat about Coaching. Omigawd, thanks for linking to this! Before I got into BK's work, I wouldn't have believed people could talk like they do in that blog entry and still function in the real world. Sadly I know better now. Try on this gem from the above-mentioned blog entry... in which Carol comes on like q
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QuoteThe Shadow~~ thanks for the salespitch, Jon, but i'm not buying it - regards, Shad Hey Shadow, I kind of bit your head off recently when I thought you were belittling people for getting hooked into Byron Katie. I apologize if I overreacted. As for Jon Willis, I really appreciate what you have expressed to him and would like to add a few things... I googled "Jon Willis"
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Great find, JJ. I want to zoom in on one paragraph from that commenter at the Guruphiliac blog and highlight in bold one particular statement regarding Byron Katie: QuoteI have been around some people who are very close to Katie and Stephen and been to a few private events. What bothered me the most as I got an inside view of the BKI organization is that followers of Katie seem to think sh
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QuoteJon WillisHi Helpme2times, I've been using The Work for almost a couple of years - pretty intensively at times, which has tended to be my way with most things in life :-) In response to your questions: Is it at all possible that there might be something "off" about it? Even one thing? Can you consider that deeply and answer honestly? Sure - I've seen a lot of
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QuoteJon WillisAnyway, that's my experience of The Work - in response to something that Anticult asked in an earlier post, I'm not a huge fan of it being called The Work. Feel self-conscious about capitalizing now, but for me that's just about avoiding confusing between work and the process called The Work. I look forward to seeing what's posted. Jon Jon, I used to be a
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Quotejj52NOW I can see that picture and see that there is really something wrong with it. She really is lying with her eyes.Sure looks that way to me too, JJ. As the song goes, "you can't hide your lying eyes."
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QuotevlindenYou might think "insane" is too harsh, but I think there's something in her eyes that, to me, just instantly raises the "wacko" red flag. Also, because of the nature of her books, her appearance is very incongruous to me. She looks like a Miami Beach widow on the make. This is the woman who lives purely in her spirit?? With that hair?? Let's not forget ab
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I posted about this on another Byron Katie-related thread, but since Anticult has referred to it in this thread, I'm posting it here too. It's a new entry on Byron Katie's blog, posted late last night: Shocking News From Byron Katie. I discovered it this morning and found it kinda suspicious, given that the woman and her organization have come under such scrutiny lately.
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QuotevlindenThis has to be one of the most insane paragraphs I've ever read. It's absolutely incomprehensible. Does she speak like this as well? Do people follow her? Do they think they should understand her and just feel badly about themselves when they don't? Wow. I know. Eckhart Trolle seems quite sane in comparison.
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QuoteThe AnticultByron Katie wrote about...cancer...radiation...death and dying... Shocking and scary words that can strike fear, anxiety and sadness in anyone who has gone through serious cancer and death in the family... But in terms of general information, there does not appear to be cause for worry or talk of death or dying in virtually all cases of Basal Cell Carcinoma. Thank you once
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Quotejj52All right everyone, please excuse me for picking this one apart. I guess I'm feeling pretty bold... and like someone just raped my mind after reading this... Not to be insensitive to BK's little bout with cancer... but I'm certainly not to let sympathy prevent me from saving myself, and finding/naming the errors here. And, I'm not going to let it dissuade me for seein
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Due to something I read a little while ago on a Byron Katie-related message board (at Yahoo), I visited Katie's blog and there read a very startling new report. My jaw is on the floor. Here's a link to it: Byron Katie Blog Entry Here's what the blog entry says... QuoteMy daughter called me to let me know how her day went yesterday. I love listening to her report her jo
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Having a sense of humor sure helps when trying to recover from BK's special brand of mindf&#k. I just thought up a new name for BK..... Byron "Piece of Work" Katie Hee!
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QuoteThe AnticultWhy would a senior facilitator of The Work write a highly manipulative piece to define Love called "WHAT IS LOVE?" about Valentines day, that starts off sweet and sounding "normal", and then hypnotically builds into The Work, and then into the horrendous destructive belief and thought.. "Love is a murderer. If Love wanted to call me home, to consume me
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In the Guruphiliac blog entry, in which Byron Katie's 9-day "School" is criticized, an apologist writes in a comment attempting to discredit the criticisms. I'm copying the apologist's comments here in italics, and adding my questions/reactions in bold. Perception is everything. Oh really? My experience of the School for The Work was the antithesis of what was pos
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QuoteThe AnticultJust to be sure everyone understands...here are the objective technical facts about the removal of that important text from the webpage mentioned above. (Google indexes websites constantly, and updates them, and keeps a "cache" which lags a bit behind. Ask some techie to explain that if you need to.) By pressing the link given above and again here, [209.85.135.1
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Here are some examples of skewed "Work" thinking regarding the body and health, from Byron Katie's book, Question Your Thinking, Change The World: "No one is mentally ill, no one is frigid; these are just terms we use to separate ourselves, to stay lost." (p. 41) "My heart is always healthy. Even if it were having an attack, it would be healthy. It's perfe
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QuoteThe AnticultDoes anyone know of any other text, or recordings where Byron Katie claims or states The Work can heal any type of mental illness? Or heal any type of physical illness, or make any medical claims of that nature? I'm looking at Byron Katie's book, Question Your Thinking, Change The World, and I'm spotting quite a few doozies in the chapter, "On Health, Sickne
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QuoteThe AnticultThat article said..."Mitchell says The Work can heal mental illness. Those who see the truth can never return to their former lives of anger or despair, she insists.". Anyone see the intellectual fraud in that claim? Those who see the Truth? What truth? That there is no truth? She is claiming that there is no truth is a truth? Its gibberish, a hypnotic pattern meant
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Quotejj52I'm checking on Skolnick's credentials. Don't find anything that suggests the right to practice "soul surgery" on people. That's right, Carol Skolnick has no credentials for counseling people, other than her Byron Katie "training". Check out what she says in a recent "Soul Surgery" blog entry: QuoteLove is a murderer. If Love wa
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QuoteZentienthttp://boards.crimelibrary.com/archive/index.php/t-280572.html Check out the post by serendipitous1, 2/23/07 4:56. One of Katie's followers may have committed murder. There is not much out there about this. Some of you who are more adept than me with Internet searches may be able to find out more. Gadzooks, Zentient, nice cyber-sleuthing!
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QuoteThe AnticultOver time, it would be very useful to do more research into the founding of The Work, by Byron Katie Rolle. Obviously, she just did not get tickled by a cockroach, and then it appeared by Magick. That obviously is not true. Is it true? No it ain't! It was cobbled together from various LGAT, Human Potential seminars, New Religions, Scientology, hypnosis, Gurus, and ps
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Quotejj52P.S. Does any one else think that BK looks EVIL in this picture on wikipedia? I find it rather disturbing. Yeah. I think she looks quite like the evil twin of JZ Knight, "channeler" of the dead dude Ramtha. (This would be a case in which BOTH twins are evil. Bwahahahaha.)
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