Thank you so much for posting something about Jill Bolte Taylor. A friend sent me a link to her Oprah appearance and I felt so sickened by yet another snake oil sales pitch. Which I used to be such a sucker for. Arghhh. How wonderful that I can spot the bullshit quickly now, having gotten quite an education here in this forum. I listened to Taylor's entire appearance, all four parts (
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I keep wanting to say something about my experiences with a facilitator, but it upsets me too much and then I can't find the words. Hopefully at some point I'll be able to say something. In the meantime I'm glad you came by, YG. Welcome. :-) QuoteygHi...well, I never went to the School, but have tempted over the last years. I have visited and re-visited BK's work and th
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Jody of Guruphiliac has just posted a new blog entry re the cult of Byron Katie. For some reason I can't link to it directly. It's called "Byron Katie Poisoned by Success?" Here is a link to the Guruphiliac blog: [http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/] Here is the blog entry: Byron Katie Poisoned By Success? Seemingly from the inside, folks are beginning to lament the
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"Down to Earth", no apology necessary at all! Thanks for highlighting Steven Sashen. He and others like him are imo an important part of the problem. Unfortunately I got into Byron Katie's work because of Steven. I'll say more about this as soon as I'm able, gotta run now... QuoteDownToEarthOops, I'm sorry, I see there has already been a lot written about Sash
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I think that Guruphiliac has been dubiously helpful in educating people about Byron Katie. While he did start out saying, "It's all seeming quite culty to us," he shortly afterward did an about-face, after consulting with his friend, a "formerly inside-man" to BK's operation: "...at least it's not the cult indoctrination operation it seemed to the person wh
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Good lord, question lady, THANK YOU for voicing something I have felt many a time. I cannot stand Trolle's gobbledygookspeak! Quotequestion ladyIf I hear one more Tolle-head analyzing themselves and everyone around them with their" tricky ego" -"pain-body" gibberish I might have to go scream. My tongue is bleeding from biting it too often. You can't say anythin
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Sounds good to me. :-) QuoteThe Anticultfor any new folks, there is a seperate thread here which is just about ole Eckhart Tolle. This thread has evolved to focus pretty much only on Byron Katie...other than the title of the thread! I would vote to try and keep this thread about Byron Katie, and the other thread about Eckhart Tolle, just to make it easier to reference... The Power of Now
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Welcome, Hugh! I'm kind of glad you've put the focus on Eckhart, as I am in need of a little break from all the discussion about Byron Katie. I had looked into Tolle a few times, but his "endless droning" as you call it didn't reel me in. Thankfully! I'm wondering if you had ever felt hooked by his stuff? Please feel free to share about what has brought you
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Hey, for anyone who is looking for tickets for sale for Byron Katie on Craigslist or Ebay for Byron Katie's School For The Work in Los Angeles... PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING POSTS FIRST!! [Byron Katie - Strong Concerns] [Byron Katie's School and Turnaround House] [Surrendering Personal Property to Byron Katie] [Byron Katie's School - A Family Member's Perspective
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Hey, for anyone who is looking for tickets for sale for Byron Katie on Craigslist or Ebay for Byron Katie's School For The Work in Los Angeles... PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING POSTS FIRST!! [Byron Katie - Strong Concerns] [Byron Katie's School and Turnaround House] [Surrendering Personal Property to Byron Katie] [Byron Katie's School - A Family Member's Perspective
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Hey, for anyone who is looking for tickets for sale for Byron Katie on Craigslist or Ebay for Byron Katie's School For The Work in Los Angeles... PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING POSTS FIRST!! [Byron Katie - Strong Concerns] [Byron Katie's School and Turnaround House] [Surrendering Personal Property to Byron Katie] [Byron Katie's School - A Family Member's Perspective
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Hey, for anyone who is looking for tickets for sale for Byron Katie on Craigslist or Ebay for Byron Katie's School For The Work in Los Angeles... PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING POSTS FIRST!! [Byron Katie - Strong Concerns] [Byron Katie's School and Turnaround House] [Surrendering Personal Property to Byron Katie] [Byron Katie's School - A Family Member's Perspective
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Thank you so much, Anticult. As someone who got sucked into the black hole of "The Work of Byron Katie", I think that you've given us an EXCELLENT overview of WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON. I totally relate to what you said about the Turnarounds ending up causing guilt and depression... and then, as you say, "guess what? Then you need some FACILITATION from The Work peop
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I read somewhere that Byron Katie was successfully treated for the Fuch's Dystrophy. I've found some mention of it here: [Newsletter from Dec. 2005] QuotecorboyThat washing machine story is very odd. I dont know how to do what Anticult does, but will offer my two cents: What kind of washing machine takes 3 hours to go through a spin cycle? And..what is the actual likelihood
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Great report on Tolleprah. Thanks!
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Quoterrmoderatortunno: I would strongly advise consulting with a qualified professional, such as a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist. Oh yes, I forgot to say that in my previous post. Professional help, definitely recommended.
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QuotetunnoShould I be worried? My wife has and is suffering from depression. She has suffered from depression since her childhood. She has had thoughts of suicide and has made at least one attempt earlier in her life before I met her. She has not worked in six months. She has now found the writings of Eckhart Tolle through Oprah. She has signed up for and is doing the ten week “course” on Opra
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Remember that video where Katie is counseling the woman who is afraid of war? Well, there are actually three videos covering the entire dialogue. I just watched Part 2 - "I'm Afraid of War". Actually I didn't make it through the whole video. It bothered me so much, I had to stop watching. I could barely believe what I was hearing. I went back and transcribed the part wh
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QuotechickAnticult the last post hits the spot straight away for me, could not have done that better myself. Joe Vitale, he promotes the `Dr Len` and `Hoponopono` story which is mind control and can be found on the Huna/life coaching sites and is supposed to be about Psychic moments and criminal insanity patients. Alot of NLP companies here in the UK sell Huna courses as an advanced form of NL
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QuotechickIt seems to me that the BK method is related to the Sedona Method which is a way to teach people how to disassociate. chick Hi chick, I don't know if there's any direct connection between Byron Katie's approach and the Sedona Method. But there does seem to be an indirect connection, which you've pointed out... that the application of each method might result i
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Quoteal3rI am also a born again Christian and am taking part in the Oprah Tolle class. So far I really find it good and am enjoying it quite a lot. He has said many times that he is not endorsing any specific religion. So I see no harm in helping us all live in the spirit and not in the head. The bible says to worship in Spirit and truth. And we must believe in our HEARTS. I see far to
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QuotechickThree posts and none have shown up yet? Am Ibeing impatient? chick This forum seemed to be down for most of the weekend. You're getting through now!
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QuoteThe Anticultby the way, did anyone see the Byron Katie video on YouTube down at Venice Beach? Part 1, the one with her and many of those attending The School For The Work? But Byron Katie tells some bald-faced Whoppers in that video...BK also stands for Burger King, and both BK's can sell some real "Whoppers". Home Of The Whopper, indeed... How about this Whopper from t
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QuotevlindenI don't have any BK materials, thank god, but I'm wondering if anyone would be willing to post exact text where BK talks about instances of sexual or physical abuse. If someone would post this, I would be happy to send it to the legitimate organizations that deal with these issues, with a letter asking them to review the material and consider making a public statement abo
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QuoteThe AnticultDoes anyone happen to have the ebook, or text from the Byron Katie book, with the beyond ironic title "A Thousand Names for Joy"? I (very painfully) listened to the entire 5 CD's, and made some notes which will be posted soon. But at the end of CD#3, 3 minutes from the end, Byron Katie tells a long rambling 3 minute story about a "washing machine" an
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QuoteThe Anticult(here is a counter-Induction, notice I tell you first!) ------------------------- In your MIND, take that vase of flowers, replant the flowers in the garden and set them free...now...mentally shrink a yapping Byron Katie down into the size of her little pet cockroach, and then trap mini-katie in her own clear Vase, and put a cork in it on the top, and glue it down, with Superg
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QuotevlindenI did wonder for moment about Jon Willis contacting JJ privately and saying things to her that seemed different from what he said on this thread. Unless I'm mistaken, I just don't remember him saying anything that seemed he was looking for answers or having problems with BK. But I also don't know exactly what he said to her because she didn't feel comfortable shari
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Just to be clear for those coming here who may not be all that internet savvy... This is the definition of a troll, according to Wikipedia: QuoteAn Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotion
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QuotevlindenTo clarify . . . I can see that some defending of a group or person could happen, if someone is still involved and unsure. Again, it's just hard to tell sometimes whether that person is really a troll out to deceive. If someone shows up here to defend BK out of a sincere belief in the efficacy of her work, they're still trolling, albeit unconsciously, brainwashedly. Know
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QuotevlindenAnyway, I'm not trying to convince you to stay. Nor am I lecturing you, I was simply explaining my perspective because I was one of the people giving Willis a hard time, so I figured your anger was also directed at me. I think he deserved to be given a hard time, and I gave it to him too. Being an apologist for the work and knowing what this board is about, he had to have known t
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