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15 years ago
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QuoteThe Anticultof course...RandomStu has nothing at all to do with Byron Katie...nothing at all. Except that his current guru wrote books with Byron Katie's current husband. There is no connection there whatsoever. I agree totally. Hee. :-)
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15 years ago
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People following this thread may want to check out the following new thread re some info uncovered about RandomStu's zen teacher and a possible connection with Byron Katie: [Zen and the Art of Organization?]
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15 years ago
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QuoteThe AnticultOne area that has not be explored much, is how "Zen" might be used in global organizations and even cultic power dominance structures? For example there was a Korean Zen leader named "Seung Sahn" who founded the "Kwan Um School of Zen" which is a large global organization. This Seung Sahn being the teacher of Stuart Resnick, aka RandomStu, who ca
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15 years ago
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QuoteThe AnticultThe problem is that some folks into the Nondualist ideas, seem to believe that we create all of our own realities, not just its perception. So if a brick falls off a truck and takes your eye out, you created that. Lightning hits you on the head, yep, same deal. So its a short walk to believing that if you get murdered in your sleep in a Genocide, then you created that too.
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15 years ago
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QuoteThe AnticultOr why not talk about Carol Skolnicks pre-framing the public for a Byron Katie Love-Bomb? Speaking of Carol Skolnick, I have just read one of her recent blog entries, in which she attempts to sell an e-book she's written re depression: [Transformational Inquiry: Asking Depression] What is particularly horrifying to me is that Carol mentions a psychiatric clinic, the Am
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
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A warning to readers of this thread... A little while ago I was re-reading some of the old posts in the two Byron Katie threads. When I clicked on a few of the links to Byron Katie's old web pages, I received red alert warnings from my virus protection system that they contained "exploit threats". This is a link to a web page that talks about exploit threats. Scroll down and
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
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A warning to readers of this thread... A little while ago I was re-reading some of the old posts in the two Byron Katie threads. When I clicked on a few of the links to Byron Katie's old web pages, I received red alert warnings from my virus protection system that they contained "exploit threats". This is a link to a web page that talks about exploit threats. Scroll down and
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
15 years ago
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QuotefloaterMy impression from the people who post here and other people I've talked with about these experiences is not that they feel "helpless"--they feel ANGRY. Or betrayed. Or feel a sense of loss or emotional devastation, due to the bait and switch as described by the moderator. They also have to struggle with rebuilding their lives on top of managing those emotions. And
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15 years ago
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QuoteON2 LFso, can someone enlighten me--is this guy saying that he's a spiritual giant upon whose shoulders all should long to stand, or is he mimicking a real (or perceived) giant, whose 'shoulders' he aspires to make his own? All I'll say is, that pic is quite symbolic to me. Very telling. You get to decide what it says to you. :-)
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15 years ago
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QuotecorboyFor those who want to see some arguments within the SY fold visit and read the comments following this article. To really cut to the chase, scroll down and start reading the comments that begin on February 5th. Good find, Corb. Here is one of the comments from that thread, directed to Stuart, which echoes my experience of him in this forum: "Stuart – To summarize the e
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
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QuoterrmoderatorRandomStu: "'Brainwashing dogma'"? "this 'anticult' dogma"? Frankly, you seem to have bought into a cult apologist dogma and accompanying victim bashing. Seems like you never really sorted through your own cult experience very well. Perhaps you should read and learn more before commenting. It seems you are either ignorant a
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15 years ago
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QuoteshaktiHis comments can just be ignored, rather than obsessed over or linking him to groups he isn't really associated with. Every iota of energy spent attacking him or Jody is energy that could be spent on Katie, or Tolle, or Browne, or Esther Hicks, or whatever flavor of mind control Oprah is serving up this week. Furthermore, Shakti, I find it insulting that you would intimate that I
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15 years ago
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Quoteshakti"Shakti, how can you expect Anticult (or anyone else here) to view Stuart as a potential ally, when he is out and out denying the cultic aspects of Byron Katie? That doesn't make any sense!" -Because many of the people on this site are worried about cults and destructive leaders in general NOT just Katie or Tolle. This is one leader that he happens to not believe shou
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15 years ago
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QuoteThe AnticultI have a new internet moneymaking idea. Quantum Acai Berries. There are so small, you can't see them, but they are 1000x more powerful than non-quantum berries. The bottle may look empty, but its full of Quantum Berries and will make you rich man!! only $100 dollars. (this offer may expire at any time, but will still be here 5 years later) (inside joke about Acai berr
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15 years ago
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QuoteThe AnticultThe alien implants are still intact... Oh. Well that's just sad.
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15 years ago
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QuoteThe Anticultspeaking of Steven Sashen...he was running a seminar called QUANTUM WEALTH recently it appears. Lets see...Quantum Wealth: Quantum: "The smallest discrete amount of any quantity". hmmm.... Anticult, you already pointed this out, but I think it bears repeating. Steven Sashen "also runs a site about the Acai juice berry SCAM...and guess what...he says its
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15 years ago
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QuoteshaktiAlso, to Anticult, while I agree with you Katie, I would advise you not turning this into a "grand conspiracy" and lump people like Stuart or Jody in with Katie or Steven Sashen (I agree with you about those two!). Remember, not everybody is going to figure out things as quickly as you , so don't judge people too harshly for not dumping ALL their former idols as quickly
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15 years ago
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QuoteGuruphobiacStuart Resnick aka Random Stu was a Siddha Yoga devotee back in the early 80's, and is currently a Zen student under a Korean master whose name I don't know. Stuart has been active in the ex-Siddha Yoga forums for years. Carol Skolnick used to be, and they would have to know each other. I've had a positive experience of much of his writing, so it's a bit
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
15 years ago
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Here is a link to an article by Robert B. Lancaster, which discusses his attendance at a recent Sylvia Brown show, complete with an exchange with her: [I Speak With Sylvia Browne]
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15 years ago
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QuoteRandomStuStuart Stuart, I've just taken a quick look at your blog. In your most recent entry, you say: "It's possible that all of this is an unconscious way to balance a tendency to be a blind follower, if I don't make an effort to avoid it. I say this not just because of the time I spent with an guru. It also comes from watching my mind in group situations. I note,
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
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QuoteRandomStuOur "cherished beliefs" have a most profound affect on our lives. It's entirely in our own power, and our own responsibility, to examine these beliefs, observe their effects, and decide whether or hold them or question them. Focusing on external boogiemen like Katie... is denial of this power, and avoidance of this responsibility. And yet you are treating this forum a
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15 years ago
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QuoteRandomStuQuotehelpme2timesJust how are any of us using force here, Stu? We are speaking up. That is all. When you advocate brining in the government to shut down "unlicensed abusive group psychotherapy" (as is being done repeatedly in this thread), you're advocating the use of force. The government has men with guns, and it operates with force and threats of force. (Katie�
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15 years ago
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Here is a link to a recent blog entry critical of Byron Katie's work: [Critique of Byron Katie]
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15 years ago
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QuotefloaterWhat I've noticed about the New Age/New Thought movements is that many of its advocates can't comprehend the reality of human evil. They want to think the victims attracted the cruelty, that it's somehow predestined instead of facing the sad fact that humans have free will and can choose to do evil. The Holocaust atrocities happened because people chose to support Hitle
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15 years ago
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Just how are any of us using force here, Stu? We are speaking up. That is all. QuoteRandomStuQuoteThe AnticultComplaints can protect future consumers from also being victims of unlicensed abusive group psychotherapy, due to warnings received. Consumer Activism can force abusive organizations to be less harmful, and protect other consumers from sustaining damage that can last for years. Plea
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
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QuoteRandomStuNot to me she isn't! I leave her alone, and she leaves me alone. Then why not leave us alone as well, Stu?!
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15 years ago
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Now why would someone take 9 days out of their life and spend thousands of dollars just "out of curiosity"? This seems very odd, to say the least. How is it that Daphne knows how many school participants elevated Ms. Katie into guru status? Did she do a heacount? What criteria did she use to determine who fell under BK's spell? What if many people showed little or even no extern
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15 years ago
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Quotesolea13Still, if a person wishes to grow spiritually, there are apparently authentic or at least accepted spiritual traditions out there such as 'Advaita' (non-dualism) which do advocate as follows: "The seeker must serve the Guru and submit questions with all humility in order to remove all doubts (see Bhagavad Gita 4.34). By doing so, advaita says, the seeker will attain
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15 years ago
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Ah, what you say makes a lot of sense. As usual!
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