in my case it was useless my husbands daughter wasso pushy (33 emails in one month) and when I continued to say NO NO NO she ended up not speaking to me She was able to use her vomit enducing jargon to recruit and enroll her father(my husband) He quit after 2 months when he became tired of working as a commission free salesmen putting big bucks in someone else
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i guess everything depends on where youve been or where you are coming from in life Being a nyc girl having spent the last 25 years living in the west village, that webiste just scares me - Perhaps nyc life might scare the monks there as well. Also having read what was posted about the place certainly influenced me too. Did you take a lokk at the subtle
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if your brotherin law is so far gone there is probably nothing thta you can do - Sad that he has gotton his daughters involved- but again, doesnt sound like there is much you can do. We are horrified by what we see with these LGATS And they are on cloud nine - My experiance has been that to try to convince them otherwise is detrimrntal- They are brainwashed. They are not
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my husbands zealot LGAT daughter sounds something like this Arent you open to " lifes possibilities? I had sucha " powerful breakthrough" Integrety- Declaration- everything was a declaration Truth and trust - Wheni told her I was NOT intersted in her LGAT she replied by advising that I trust the process. (Right ) Staffing - Staffing is a euphamism the
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Im thrilled to hearthat your wife is getting better each day This website was an enormous help for me when I was in need It took me about 3 weeks to be able to start sleeping through the nights and to stop having panic attacks But it was not me that did thLGAT training it was my husband Luckily she got out when she did the nightmares will go away and you she can get you
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writing a letter to the atorney generals office , and or to the better business bureau , and or to an agency dealing with childrens services? just some thoughts here it would be really sad if kids were exposed to this kind of mind control-especially if they are going in thinking they are going to be getting help Sad for adults Sadder for children I hope
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I too am appalled but not surprised after all by going after kids they can tap into a fresh and new financial market that has not yet been approached on their end it is a brilliant idea-( a new idea as to how to generate more income ) like they really care about children Unfortunately i think that it is going to be difficult to "go after them"or to "
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I would NEVER give a LGAT one penny I hear they have a few free nights during the week Youcan get abused for free before you need to pay for the abuse-
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thought that it might be interesting/fun to get together and sit in on a LEC intr- they meet nightly around madsion square garden thought it might be fun to sit there and instead of being one of their plants asking the pro LEC questions I could be there as a plant asking questions that tey might not be ready for- wonder if anyone has ever ask them just what
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yes the seminarr business is unregulated but no one is holdng a gun to anyoneshead to make them become an unpaid staffer/slave.. In the case of my husband that was volunteering until woke up, I think it made him feel important to be a part of something- until he eventually realized that he was being abused and also realized all of his long /hard hours were benefitin
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a cold hollow trap designed for suckers i love the way you have so appropriately verbalized this i m amazed at how these "suckers' become so obnoxiously agressive when they begin to harass others with their recruitment /enrollment Not to mention that if you dont enroll they make you bad My husband has exited his LGAT ( PD) about 4 weeks ago and pres
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although I an sickened by these LGATs obviusly thee are thousands of ohters who feel this is the path they want to take- Where to they get the gaul to determine what it right for anyone else??????? Really the most bizarre notion I have ever encountered. But I suppose this aspect is part of what makes these "cult" groups.
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this site is especially scary look at the picture 80 people all white all with big ear to ear smiles wonder what they would do if a black person wanted to attend their training ? do you think theyd accept their money ? check out another "vomit inducing site "
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have you ever heard the expression "when in doubt leave it out" gdluckwith your decision Liz in nyc
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Am I one of the few that was nausiated during the touchy feeling kissing before I even knew they were only out to pickpocket me. I must be healing as I can laugh now- When I was pressured to attend a PD event(my husbands daughter invited me 16 times I attended as it was only hope that shed stop asking.) But ins pite of my intention to stay for the event I becam
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thanks for the feedback Im considering sending some info off to my husbands daughter as well as her mother ( Ive learned the mom has just done the "basic " and is interested in going for the advanced " Since his daughter is now a " big macha" in the PD training I wonder if Im just wasting my time especially since our last emails
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by doing a google search sorry i dont have the link but it comes up withing the first one or two after putting in Mankind Project to google This is the most scary of amy I have read Landmark, PD and others are obviously out to scam the weakminede for their cash,but I dont fin d them as scary as Mankind Project Lzi in nyc
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yes there have been other issues going on other than the PD training- it was for me however the straw that broke the camels back How creepy it is for me to have to share a bed with a man that was so weak minded that he fell for the words hook line and sinker - In a way perhaps it was the best things that happened It was confirmation that I want out
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Im interesting in finding any articles having to do with the buzz words used by landmark- Breakthrough- Do you get a breakthrough or get a breakdown) declare, powerful , shift-( you allknow those bizz words better than I ) Also if anyone knows of any article that is particularly excellent at pointing out that these Landmark groups are cults.Hard to choose when I
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I have read of a similiar experiance The couiple divorced- He was into the training - she was not She moved out eith the children and one year later he came begging back on her doorstep stating he was mentally physiacllly and spiritually exhaused from the recruting /enrolling process and he begged for foregivness. She states she foregave him but they
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cult even the website is scary im surprised you didnt leave immediatly- as soon as you realized things were not right i admire tour desire to report this group and get them shut down who knows how far something like this could go ? ive learned that these cults are even capable of murder and or torrrture im glad you are out liz
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as to how you gotthat mailing ? Had you been on somekind of list.I would like to see it because Im gathering as much info as possible- Perhaps I can get it by calling landmark and requesting some info. Im new to this group -just posted for the first time last week . Im Liz- posted under "Im new " on the cults sects and new religious movements. The more I read these
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and scary do you know the name of this rehab center ? what are this counselors credentials ? is it appropriate (legal ) for her to be advising a church when your brother is there for drug addicition ? what kind of a place is this ? I would be livid and try to get him out ASAP ASAP ASAP ASAP ASAP ASAP get the name of the counselor and report this insane
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thankks for your feedback. I have no real interest in seeing a therapist-in general I have found them to be useless. I will spend some more time on this forum as so far it has been very useful. The amazing part of the PDgroup is that since my husbandshas left they have all stopped calling - there were about 9 on his team that called daily. But stil llhis daughter calls
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thankks for your feedback. I have no real interest in seeing a therapist-in general I have found them to be useless. I will spend some more time on this forum as so far it has been very useful. The amazing part of the PDgroup is that since my husbandshas left they have all stopped calling - there were about 9 on his team that called daily. But stil llhis daughter calls
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but according to my husband it was run much like the military he has left the group-so i should be greatful but Im still having trouble sleeping and still having to deal with his older daughter who just cannot accept that hwer dad has chosen to leave PD. She is sending constant emails inviting him to the meetings, and this is still very upsetting to me as I can
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yes do you know of them i have text of 15 emails in under one month from a recruiter the last in which she has asked dme to surrender to PD
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and would like some help my husband recently enrolled in the personal dynamics cult after his daughter age 35 brought him in He was in for 3 months Iwas terrified and became quite ill(panic attacks ) couldnot sleep or eat Have no family to go to and have a young child I ddid it know where to turn for help as this cult invasded my life 24/7 and of course
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