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19 years ago
ginger38
I there are things that I can help you. Like example. get this book. 1. THe Subtle Power of SPiritual Abuse. 2. Enroll yourself in Rick Joyner Ministry, the tape clubs, Prophetic and teaching tapes, i have been a member since 1998, they kept my sanity intact. I don't know if it would help you , but it sure does to me. You need fresh Living Water from God. I know a lot of people
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
19 years ago
ginger38
apparently there are many apostolic network, yours was just one of them, Get this book by Rick Joyner, APostolic Ministry, on the introduction pages, it has a prophesy of the false apostolic reformation and it also describe your network down to details plus a prophesy of the downfall of all these apostolic network.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
19 years ago
ginger38
Laughin Willow, try the school counselor, because all of that will be documented. The court will asked about psychiatrist , have you seen a psychiatrist. The psychiatrist will have to testify just to have a stronger case. The evil organization, always makes you feel ashamed, and stupid, thats their job to suppress people's voices. These will be your strength. Its like a woman who got rap
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
19 years ago
ginger38
The place where you came from is far more obvious something is wrong. I do believed people will developed psychosis. I have seen people transformed from sweet loving people to monsters and literally avoids their families. I was in Morning Star International. There are too many people who are falling for false apostles. have you seen a counselor yet ? or a psychiatrist ? Or ever thought of br
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
19 years ago
ginger38
no, i am not familiar with this one, but since the year 2000. A lot of false apostles have risen up. This includes Morning Star International. There are more false apostles now than real ones. I have known real ones, but the false ones are more obvious with their lifestyle and their walk and their talk.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
19 years ago
ginger38
Morningstar International, is a self-serving ministry. Some of the well - known rules that Morningstar have is, that YOU PEOPLE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO RAISED SUPPORT in Morningstar, because they don't want their tithes and offerings to go someplace else other than Morningstar. BUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN MORNINGSTAR ARE REQUIRED to RAISED SUPPORT IN OTHER CHURCHES NOT IN MORNINGSTAR. In other
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
19 years ago
ginger38
Some of the few cultic behavior are 1.Using Fear and intimidation so you will submit loyalty to them. Instead of an honest , open mutual respect , like Christ did to His disciples. examples. Telling the people to clean up the pastors homes and take care of their kids and if you disobey, you will be labeled as rebellious and disobedient. another example. Giving threats to the people exam
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
19 years ago
ginger38
I am sorry to hear whats happening to you, the only thing I can think of is to contact the proper authorities, file a police report, write down the dates what happened etc. Or try contacting the district attorney. I have known a few people who had to left the country to get away from these kind of things. Some left the cities or state. Also, these types of cults like to keep the abuse things
Forum: Destructive Churches
20 years ago
ginger38
How the United States Marine Corps Differs from Cults By Margaret Singer, Ph.D. 1.The Marine recruit clearly knows what the organization is that he or she is joining.... There are no secret stages such as people come upon in cults. Cult recruits often attend a cult activity, are lured into "staying for a while," and soon find that they have joined the cult for life, or as one grou
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
20 years ago
ginger38
I got this from a website, its Margaret Singer, Probably its in her book. A psychologist , an expertise in cult watchers. Her book is entitled CULTS in our Midst. They also shelter the cults by trying to discredit the reports of ex-members who try to tell the world what it was like to be in a cult. The apologists disparage these former members, calling them bitter apostates, disgruntled, def
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
20 years ago
ginger38
AUthor Margaret Singer. A cult expert. This is just a quote from her, probably its in her book. Cults in our Midst. They also shelter the cults by trying to discredit the reports of ex-members who try to tell the world what it was like to be in a cult. The apologists disparage these former members, calling them bitter apostates, disgruntled, defectors, disloyal, and turncoats. David Brom
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
20 years ago
ginger38
yeah, thats the one ! I have seen her only once on TV.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
20 years ago
ginger38
the statistic that was showed on TV was these people got caught. And the number of complaints are growing, Some are being investigated by the goverment. Some of them are interviewed by the press as to why people left their churches. Some left their churches because of abuse, so they start their own cell group, home churches. Form there some of the abuse arise too. Some turn out good. I
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
20 years ago
ginger38
According to statistics, there are far a lot more NOW than 10 years ago.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
20 years ago
ginger38
Haig, CSI is one of my favorite show and I am just going to quote what was said by this. " The funny thing about TRUTH is that it will finds its way to the Light" Jesus said this, For nothing is hidden that God will Not bring into Light. There are godly men and ungodly men in the key leadership in MSI. God will bring things into Light in due time.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
20 years ago
ginger38
I am sorry to hear that your niece is going to VLI, there is really nothing you can do to convince them. While I was there in MSI california, I noticed that several of my friends who graduated in VLI, just a handful of people who graduated, end up working in the church office with a small wage. Some still depend on their parents and family to support them financially because they could not make i
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
20 years ago
ginger38
Jezebel Spirit Jezebel Spirit is a term from John Paul Jackson's book, page 60, "unmasking the jezebel spirit." Unreasonable and Unyielding "Seeing themselves as spiritually superior, a Jezebelite often blieves God has provided a hedge of protection around him or her, isolating them from any deceptive spirits. Some even believe they are immune to sin and deception be
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
20 years ago
ginger38
Some people think I am mean to say all these things, I guess Jesus is a lot meaner, calling the Pharasees Ravenous wolves and hypocrites. Which is Morningstar truly are, They are a bunch of ravenous wolves looking for prey whom they can try to victimized, First they come in a false sheep clothing then they will try to befriend you and slowly they will try to make you give up your decision mak
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
20 years ago
ginger38
Morningstar response shows their lack of spiritual maturity. Matt: 5:23 If therefore you are presenting your offering at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your offering at the altar and go your way FIRST BE RECONCILED TO YOUR BROTHER, THE COME AND PRESENT YOUR OFFERING. Morningstar REFUSES to do this with people that left Morningstar, instead they
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
20 years ago
ginger38
Hamrick, its amazing that you mentioned regarding the $150.00, we had the same problems. A friend of mine from Washington send $200 to a missjionary tot he Philippines, and it never reached them. The man called them up several times for 2 months, they kept saying that they have already sent it . But you know, the missionary never received it. Finally they(missnionaries) just let it go. It was
Forum: Destructive Churches
20 years ago
ginger38
Hamrick, Quite frankly, I don't doubt that God spoke to you regarding your wife. When you submit that to the leadership is the right thing to do, but its the way it was pursued I had problem with. Bible said this He is the author and the finisher of our faith, well God did initiate ( God told you who your wife going to be ) You have to let Him finished it. (when your wife had 3 dream a
Forum: Destructive Churches
20 years ago
ginger38
Morning Star International. In response to KAnn, this is what the bible said specifically PAul " If I seek the approval of men, I cannot be a servant of Christ ". In other words, if I care so much on how my pastor think, or kept seeking his approval, I cannot be a servant of Christ. And thats all Morningstar wants, is to seek the disciplers or the pastors approval , they call i
Forum: Destructive Churches
20 years ago
ginger38
MorningStar International You know, I have only one problem with Rice Brookes. I have no idea if he is religious. I heard him preached a few times over the past 20 years everytime he comes to visit. I could care less for it, because you won't grow up in his preaching anyway. The only problem I had with him, He KNOWS the abuse thats going on. A few people have already told him regarding P
Forum: Destructive Churches
20 years ago
ginger38
Morningstar International lots of things has happened, maranatha disbands years ago and re-group. Half part of them changed, the othr half have not and still controlling. Morning Star International, which includes former Maranatha leaders, as recently as year 2000 lost one-third of the people because of cult-like activities. Same thing, discipleship programs. Submit to authority or you will b
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