Quotezeuszor I, through my persistence and research, have now established a definitive link between the Roberts group and the cult that eventually came to be known as the Jesus Christians. This explains how the JCs, in their present form, are more or less a diluted Australian clone of the Roberts group, but with heavy COG/Family influences and a few Heaven's Gate-ish sci-fi overtone
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QuoteDave..."what does it matter who said it, if the message is a good one"..... It would not matter a jot who said it Dave, if you did not call yourselves Jesus Christians. If you had called your group the ' Dave McKayians', readers would generally expect to see your teachings on the banner. Since you call yourselves the 'Jesus Christians', readers gener
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QuoteBlackhatDave, I have a question for you. I am posting it here because it's the only way I can ask you, not because of any alliance with others on this forum, so don't give me that rubbish again in your reply. I have been thinking about your "rolling quotes" banner on your web site. They seem to go on forever, without any repetition, quote after quote from you. Quot
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Quote from Dave McKay SOURCE: - ... 0&start=20 QuoteDaveWe're not Jesus? Are you really so sure? The Bible says that we are "his body" here in this world, and so we have the responsibility to follow his example, even though we know that the foolishness of the cross is going to enrage all those who operate in their own fleshly understanding. Quote from Kevin
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Peace, goodwill and christmas blessings to everyone who reads this, including ALL of the Jesus Christians and ALL of their families and loved ones.
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Quote DAVE.......We have had a major set-back with a shipment of 50,000 "More Than Just a Band"We have had a major set-back with a shipment of 50,000 "More Than Just a Band" DVDs from India. Even though the DVD is our own, we overlooked the fact that the company producing it probably does pirated DVDs (which are all the rage in India), and so Customs seized the shipment
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Two things I want to say here 1. With regard to Lee 1983, he is the type of poster that Dave loves to see on this board and on any other forum that is critical of him. Posters like Lee 1983 leave a trail of confusion and ill repute in their wake nd Dave loves that. 2. Dave has made the following point on his board here . ... 432#p26432 Of course, when you read the teachings of Jesus,
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Dave got it wrong casting Muppet as Liesel so he took another wild gamble. He cast Muppet as Liesel's husband. Here is what he wrote QuoteDave on welikejesus wrote Well, Jeremy, you got a response from Liesel (who shares the username Muppet with her husband on the Rick Ross forum, shares the name Oerlikon with Malcolm and Brian on the Rick Ross forum, and writes as Gertrude on the
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SOURCE: . ... f19#p2592 I noticed that Jeremy accepts Dave's mistaken assertion that Muppet is Liesel! Jeremy wrote: What really seems to be missing in Liesel's understanding.... Well, what seems to be missing in Jeremy's inderstanding is that Dave gets it wrong on a regular basis and has got my identity wrong again. Too bad if that unsurps his prophet status. I
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Lee, you are obviously very agitated and angry at the moment. however, that does not give you the right to name call and insult Joe or others. I hope you can calm down and think before you write.
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QuoteLee1983Just looking over this thread and I must say Dave MacKay YOU ARE THE MOST SARCASTIC INSUFFERABLE MISERABLE RAMBLING PERSON. I am digusted by your rudeness to people....I don't pretend to be a Christian but you swear you follow Christs way his teachings. DO YOU ACT IN A CHRIST-LIKE WAY DAVE MACKAY WHEN YOU MOCK PEOPLE AND MAKE SUCH NASTY- MEAN- SNARKY COMMENTS? Lee1983 In my
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deeptruths.com is run by James Japan (Arendt) , a member of the Family (Children of God). Not sure I understand the last post.
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The List of concerns about David J McKay compiled by posters to this site ... updated 1. David teaches and utilises deception (see past discussions about thefts and welfare fraud) 2. David teaches his group to IGNORE the teachings of Jesus in favour of his own interpretations (see Killers for Jesus thread where Dave justifies killing people when circumstances dictate) 3. David te
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The JC's could be commended for their motivation. They are extremely dutiful in litnessing, getting out their quotas, loyalty to leadership. warning the world about their love of money and idolatry. In many cases I expect they are incredibly tired also by these duties. Too tired perhaps, in some cases, to realise that they themselves may have been steered away from the awesome loving God th
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Dear JC´s, exers, everyone who posts here and on the welikejesussite and XJCS Merry Christmas As we celebrate this holy season when the Saviour was born, may the reality of his saving grace which is the only justification we have prove sufficient for us. Christmas is a special time for families and my prayer today is that ALL of the group members will contact or visit their families
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May God bless everyone in and connected to this group and pour out his grace upon them so that they realise that it is the sacrifice that Jesus made that will melt the heart of humanitiy and not the work of man. May your breaking hearts be filled with the love and forgiveness of Christ. May the bonds of fear be melted by God's love and may you experience the peace that surpassses all
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Offended. I am glad that this matter has now been resolved and I hope your mother has peace and calm in her twilight years. Although Dave continues to insist that everyojne here on RR is full of hate and fear, in actual fact you will find that this is not the case. The people we have met here are mainly a compassionate lot. Many of them have suffered agonies when their families wer
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Offended One more question. You mentioned that you do not hold any office in the Salvation Army. I recall posting something on that topic on RR. ... in May 2006 'May 22, 2006 07:36PMmuppet Date Added: 05/22/2006 Anaglypta is probably wrong about power sharing in the group. Dave McKay has always been the absolute leader of the group and all members have to send him detaile
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QuoteOffendedMalcolm, By meek restraint, is that in referrance to my request that Brian stop harrassing my 87yo mother, or is that your restraint from hating me simply because I am related to David? I am familiar with the examples you list, but I feel you will still consider me a gullible dunce (again, guilt by blood relation) I have no office within The Salvation Army, nor have I
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Hello dogmother, you may also have copied out this from the bible 'clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you.' Dave rarely quotes the bible passages on love so yes it is strange that he referred to Corinthians a short while a
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Quotebarbiedoll I know that Dave likes to call people on here "hatemongers" but i myself have recently discovered that actually they dont "hate" the people on the Jesus Christians forum, they do care and even though Dave makes out as though they this forum is full of hate, you need to read the posts and see that they are not full of hate or anger but concern. Quote Hello b
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Has anyone here heard of this program or has anyone been involved in this.
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So confused by this statement Dave made above 'But more than that, the Jesus Christians are not a charity. We (almost) never have asked for donations to help with our charity work. Instead, we fund that almost entirely from our own pockets' If they do not work for money, what, if anything , is in their own poclets apart from donations? What charity work is he talking about?
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Dave is preaching it over at the moneysavingexperts forum As with all new poster there he is registered as a 'money saving newbie' Dave says Thanks WDIAG? I too hope that we can discuss the issues rationally, and with respect for both points of view. I will try to go through the points you raised, in the order in which you raised them. You said: "If someone wa
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Dave posted this on the moneysavingexpert site There are so many things to respond to on this thread; it's hard to deal with them all. One is the idea that the supermarkets should just give their waste to charities and that would solve the problem. In fact, a few do, and readers may find it hard to believe this, but even the CHARITIES in this country do not have the time or the worker
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Dave has recently posted this on the moneysavingsexpert.com. Just to clarify, Wife Swap is entertainment. It's called reality TV, but that's not absolute. The film crew had a schedule to keep, and so Roland was basically dragged off to a job, posed for a few pictures, and then told that it was time to leave and get back to other filming. It was the producers who apparently told the
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Dave's post from moneysavingexpert.com As a little background, I am also a member of the Christian community that Sue and Rols are a part of, although that is not really relevant to what I'm about to say...............................................................................................................................................................................
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Discussion of freegan christians, their latest media splash and the perks.
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"The Jesus Christians had 'holier than thou' attitides towards the wealthy couple, who challenged them on not paying tax yet partaking of its benefits, such as free education and the National health Service. They responded with the claim that they contributed to society in other ways. When they were asked to clarify what exactly they contributed to society and they could not an
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