Does anyone have any information on Cru and their Middle East missions? Is it worth it? I have international friends who say it's a big waste. My son is thinking of joining a large group of students and I'm not sold on the idea. My gut feeling is never wrong.
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Quoteflashlight_on_roachesQuoteIamtheAntiChrisMike and Carol Gabbard were the head teachers in the short lived Ponomaloa school. this is where it started for the children to be turned into the perfect servants for Chris Butler. most the ones you see here have struggled through relationships, addiction, incarceration, abandonment, and general confusion about reintegrating back into society.
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Mike and Carol Gabbard were the head teachers in the short lived Ponomaloa school. this is where it started for the children to be turned into the perfect servants for Chris Butler. most the ones you see here have struggled through relationships, addiction, incarceration, abandonment, and general confusion about reintegrating back into society.
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QuoteyasminJust wanted to write a quick note to Anti Chris. I was raised in a different communal group, and just wanted to hope that things are starting to get better for you. Re therapists; don't go to one who doesn't understand; I found the most useful ones were older therapists who had dealt with things like PTSD or cults /NRMs a lot.Therapists who have dealt with drug addict famil
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QuoteVoxVeritasVita DasDear Anti-Chris - I am so very sorry you had to go thru all of this, know that you are not alone and while it is rare that any psychiatrist would understand your predicament, understand that we do know and we will not stop until Butler has been exposed to the world. He cannot escape from the Truth and neither can Tulsi Gabbard. The question is now, can the United States C
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Quotedabculthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yquvQJa_ZYo Dear ANTI CHRIS Hope you have look at this 3 part series videos that I film a year ago ...about the gurukulas of ISKCON . Its the same stories about serving the guru and neglecting their kids .......if not abandoning them completely ( as story related about a little girls about 2 ust abandon at the dor of the ashram .....I did t
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QuoteVera CityAnti Chris ~ My heart goes out to you. Thank you for validating the stories about the school. I know it must have stirred a lot of difficult memories. Were your parents aware of the abuse in the school? Did you have contact with them? Did you tell them? Did you have support from them at the time and do they support you now? How did you get out of the cult? What made the
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Quoteflashlight_on_roachesQuoteIamtheAntiChrisQuotedabcultAND VERA ........ AS A FAR AS THE GLAZE EYES ...........5 TO 6 HOURS SLEEP ONLY ........FOR YEARS ON END ......AND 12 HOURS A DAY OF SERVICE MOSTLY IN THE STREETS BEGGING ..........THAT ALONE AS A GLAZING EFFECT ....AND CHANTING MILLIONS OF TIMES OVER AND OVER 3 WORDS .....HARE KRISHNA RAMA............I MUST HAVE BEEN IN A DEEP TRANCE
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This cult serves neither Christianity nor Gaudiya Vaishnavism. They preach Christianity because they are from Hawaii and the spiritual climate there is predominantly Christian. They only preach Christianity on a very superficial level to get people into their cult. Once they are into the cult, they are forced to work at the health food store and their every action is watched. They must tell the p
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QuotedabcultAND VERA ........ AS A FAR AS THE GLAZE EYES ...........5 TO 6 HOURS SLEEP ONLY ........FOR YEARS ON END ......AND 12 HOURS A DAY OF SERVICE MOSTLY IN THE STREETS BEGGING ..........THAT ALONE AS A GLAZING EFFECT ....AND CHANTING MILLIONS OF TIMES OVER AND OVER 3 WORDS .....HARE KRISHNA RAMA............I MUST HAVE BEEN IN A DEEP TRANCE this is how it was in the school in Philippine
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Quoteflashlight_on_roachesQuoteIamtheAntiChrisi had just remembered, his name was Sudama. the one with the motorcycle. he was one of the first people from the US to come to the Philippines. the first "disciples" i believe were 8 men. only some names i can recall. Jeff Tamayo. Tobi Tamayo Bubut Jimenez Nilo Santos Nimai Das, i dont remember his original name Joseph Bismar
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i had just remembered, his name was Sudama. the one with the motorcycle. he was one of the first people from the US to come to the Philippines. the first "disciples" i believe were 8 men. only some names i can recall. Jeff Tamayo. Tobi Tamayo Bubut Jimenez Nilo Santos Nimai Das, i dont remember his original name Joseph Bismark the rest i will try to remember..
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LISTEN ANTI CHRIS ...UNLESS YOU CAN NAME PEOPLE BY NAMES AND GET SOME SORT OF A PROOF FOR SUCH EVENTS .........IT IS NOT USEFULL ..(IN MY OPINION)...TO WRITE ABOUT PASS DOWN GOSSIPS JUST COMMUNICATE WITH .......FLASHLIGHT ....AND VERA THEY COULD BE A MENTORS TO YOU AND MANY OF US...HOW TO REPORT IN A METICULOUS PROVABLE WAY ... ITS GOING ON TOWARD THE 200,000 READERS ...... OF THESE
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Sai Speaks. thanks for sharing it. now i know how it all has started. my grandmother has told me that around early 70's the haribol center in manila was raided because the "devotees" of CB were distributing LSD through the facade of the place. they would keep it in their chanting beads bag. this was when CB already accepting disciples. the main guy was "the one with the
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the diet: yes i remember CB taking insane amounts of supplements and the parents taking insane amounts. it never occurred to me until way later on you can actually get the nutrients through regular food. also, everyone be sick and weak all the time. always down with something, and very germ phobic. wearing masks in public and constantly washing hands. in Baguio school all the privi
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i'd like to thank everyone that replied to my post. i am second generation. born into the maddness. CB was already Jagad Guru. i have lived in 3 broken families within the group. i can attest everything i have read has been accurate. this is such a mind opener. i still am angry at my parents for their denial and for not educating their children. and giving away everything we had to
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greetings. this is my first post, i have been following this thread for a few years now. i jut wanted to come out and say thank you to all that have contributed. this thread pretty much saved my life. i owe it to all of you. i thought i was doomed, going to go crazy, and then the guilty feelings that followed after i realized that i was not on any sort of path to spirituality. i gave my e
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