QuotewarrenzWell, you seem to have answered your own question. The various events hosted by DWB do provide financial offerings to Shamar/Thaye Dorje - whether directly from DWB or indirectly from individual attendees. If Shamar/Thaye Dorje found Ole so unpleasant they would not be taking up his invitations or accepting money from those gigs. Do you seriously tell us that in addition to donations
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QuotewarrenzAs I've said several times here - it is well past time students of Shamar/Thaye Dorje in particular (and also of the likes of Beru Khyentse and Jampa Thaye) stopped pretending that their teachers have no part or responsibility for what Ole does. Knowing full well what he has done and refusing to condemn him, these teachers enable Ole to continue, greedy for the money and support
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Oma Desala, warrenz: I’m not sure guys what „support“ of tibetan lamas to Ole Nydahl you have been talking about!? A lack of criticism of his teachings or political statements is not yet a support at all. I’m positive most of tibetan lamas have never heard Oles teachings and for sure never read his books. Criticism in general isn't a part of an Asian mentality and certainly it doesn't b
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QuoteRudi A friend in DWB told me that one of Ole's close disciples, a traveling teacher, said explicitly that it was Karmapa's wish and not Ole's and I was also told so by another person very active in DWB. I can't say more since that could reveal my identity. Rudi: what I know from a closer DWB circle is that it was a decision strongly influenced by Cathy with an intention t
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QuoteRudiUpon request of Karmapa Thaye Dorje, Lama Ole Nydahl joined the Kagyu Monlam this year in Bodhgaya, India. There are photos showing him together with high-ranking Kagyu-Lamas: What is the purpose of the Karmapa's invitation? Is it part of his endeavour to lead Nydahl and his organisation on the right path? I am curious if something is going to change for the better finally .
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QuoteRudi I have been considering to quit following this thread because of the pain, but the pain comes anyway when I get or read proper teachings and involuntarily compare them to Ole's teachings and find out how distorted they sometimes are. There is no end in sight yet. Hi Rudi I know exactly how it feels. I used to be Oles student for a very long time. At some point I noticed I was g
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Quotesuenam Can you give me a page reference please? Suenam, you may want to check out page 243, chapter "The Karmapa sends Gendun Rinpoche to Europe". There is one important letter on Ole's website: Karmapa's letter dated March 26th, 1979 It states that Ole and Hannah are "teachers of the fundamental teachings on ethics and practice of the precious path of Lord Buddha
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Regardless of how many "letters of confirmation" and "references" from Kagyu teachers Ole's been able to put up on his website, he just isn't a qualified Buddhist lama in the traditional sense. For anyone wishing to argue, it'be good to examin his spiritual background described in his autobiographies Entering the Diamond Way and Riding the Tiger. I've compi
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Quotesuenam...empowerments are not just "meant for blessing" - that itself is a dualism perpetrated by Nydahl - they are self-empowements to practice, not blessings coming from outside. Suenam, there are different types of empowerments. What Rudi refers to as a "blessing empowerment" is an empowerment given publicly to anyone where you will not receive any precise instructio
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