QuoteVTV JimJesus, (Machwon) Do you recall making this statement on the Skeptic forums? "I will admit this: I have seen Mario use very sensational and sometimes misleading titles for his videos and blogs. I have seen Kush publish information that turned out inaccurate when new evidence has surfaced. I can't speak for the occult aspects of it as I am not well versed in occultism. (n
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QuotecorboySkeptic23 QuoteBut I do think it is an e-sect (or Internet-Sect) that promotes an isolating and unhealthy world view. When something almost entirely exists on the Internet, I think it is fair to criticize how moderation is done. On the surface, yes, it was just a forum. But in the context of the e-sect, the forum was a temple. ... It may sound silly, but if you really believe
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

corboy, I was not a former member of TZM, I was a former short time member of a financial cult Primerica. I became critical of the TZM group when I discovered a few of my friends who joined this. They all left before TVP distanced themselves and the group become smaller, more radicalized and concerning. I've been watching them for a while, so I'll try to answer. Recommended c
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VTV, The only point I am trying to make here in regard to the forum is that TZM's official message board was not open to debate or outside views which you implied. I only withed to correct this error. TZM's message board were strictly moderated and did not allow for any opposing views in all the time I was familiar with it. I'm not here to debate you VTV. I've stated wha
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VTV says: "We didn't ban people from TZM forums for varying viewpoints. We banned them for attacking and bullying people. " "Again, as I have already pointed out and has yet to be refuted people were not banned for voicing dissent" This is false. This was a screen shot that was taken of the forums' old suspended/banned user list. In it it gave details on who w
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

QuoteVTV I just answered you. Initially they were. If someone asked questions or had critisisms and were able to communicate those absent personal attack they were generally communicated with. But just like this forum, that forum had a stated purpose, and people who were off topic or clearly there just to cause trouble were eventually removed. VTV, I disagree, I think you're
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

QuoteVTVQuotejimjesus VTV, Are claiming that the former Official Zeigeist Movement Forums were open to non-members and debate? -Jim Initially they were. We ended up dealing with hundreds of questions posted that could of easily been answered in the FAQ. So then we put in the Quiz. And even after that we ended up spending hours and hours and hours sifting through "noise" as it
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

QuoteVTV "Dissent" on this forum gets shouted down in the form of moderation. The TZM forums were no different in that regard. Again, as I have already pointed out and has yet to be refuted people were not banned for voicing dissent. They were banned for the same sort of things that you ban people from here for. And the same results are happening as now 2012CT has taken to personally at
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