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Please try your search engine with "buddh pedophile monks" or similar.
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Dear rrmoderator, you latest message from October 02, 2012 04:26PM makes you look like a Suenam-Clone. You use the same way of argueing blocking away any progress in the discussion. Please do not let this thread die. Unless you want that now for whatever reason.
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@rrmoderator: Thank you for clarifying. @suenam: Thank you for your latest messages. There is so much to say about them, but I try to keep it short. Quote"... what Nydahl did to you was against your wishes, ... It may well be that Nydahl opening your energy centres ... he believed he was doing it 'for the best', however the result proves that this was not the case" Do I
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Right, that's why we need a lot of grains of truth to get the whole story. That's why I'm asking for real support here, not for answers trying to obscure the facts. It is not any reasonable to deny the fact, that some people are able to control the mind states of some other people. There are many different techniques for that like - a boss overpowering an employee who is finan
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Thank you Karam-mudra. Yes I am able to read german. Do you know if there are english or german translations of the essay of the french psychotherapists or excerpts from it? Are there other members who like to share their knowledge about this "power" to influence the mind of other people? Or who have experienced this themselves or are related to other persons who did experience this
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The discussion is getting a little intense here. Maybe not bad. Maybe we are getting close to some important points. @rrmoderator I do understand the rules. What karam-mudra described has been done in the course of this thread many times "discuss basic theorems ... in the context of Nydahl´s DW, otherwise it is not understandable how he works". I cannot see how currently any member
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@suenam: If I would see someone who is seeking an alternative and tell this person "I got what you want. Sometimes you should let go of what they told you about how to be in this world. Try this, it's really good for you." Wouldn't that place a pretty great responsibility on me? Especially if it turns out it isn't really good for this person. And then we look around and s
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I disagree. In which example wasn't a Guru or a Lama in his position without having at least a group of followers, if not a hierarchical system of devotees, monchs, nuns or the like? Everyone at the top of a hierarchy is a leader, yes? So a Guru or a Lama alone by his position is already a leader. Some of them may seem to have overcome their "personality" in the meaning of a regula
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(I do not want to invest too much energy in a forum, so this will be my last post for now, but I will check in again to read any replies) @Corboy - That was interesting, thank you for that. And please excuse if my words were misunderstandable. My intention was to not make it look like you were accepting this QuoteThe high rinpoches of the Vajryana traditions seem unable or unwilling to depo
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@rrmoderator: Thank you for answering. Here are some excerpts of above website: Member Sun on Sept 3, 2011 is not only critical about Mr. Nydahl. But here I only want to quote some description of sun's own experiences: Quote"... I was deeply and profoundly involved in Diamond Way Buddhism for about three years. ... I have a unique perspective as I know what a genuine Buddhist m
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Just found this: . More confirming pieces in the puzzle - posts from sun (3.9.2011), scared (2.8.2011), sam (19.2.2009). @rrmoderator: Am I allowed to post copies of their statements here? Just in case DW would try and be successfull with shutting down that website, too?
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Same here, just my opinion. Reflect unprofessional psych diagnosis back to the ones who practice unprofessional psych diagnosis and manipulation and in combination with peer pressure since many, many years in their own groups is not a bad thing, IMO, but a chance for them to experience the consequences of their actions and to change their behaviour.
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Hi all, just stopping by to throw in a few lines. Happy to see the growing confidence here though I still wish it would take less time for the public media to report about this. Like yesterday, there was a report about the death of San Myung Mun, leader of the Mun sect. One of his ex-followers gave a statement 100% identical to statements seen here, about how it is impossible to see the brainw
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Hello, please excuse that this message is somehow unrelated to the latest messages. I wanted to send this for some time and only today found to be the right moment. As I stated in some of my previous messages, I did some research of buddhism in general including Nydahl and this forum. I am convinced that it is necessary to try to get an overview, to see the bigger picture. So in this message I
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(@suenam: Please excuse my sometimes bad english. I meant the message from June 9, 2012.) Okay, this is meant to be be useful. Then maybe another way to be useful is to share my personal conclusion regarding Nydahl and DW. To do so I have to clarify the following in advance: Believing buddhists when they said buddhism was only a philosophy, I once had a trustful interest in buddhism but ne
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suenam, thank you. It seems you were bringing it to the point when you wrote the non-buddhist values and attitude towards life is at odds with the buddhist ideal. This means the buddhist ideal is an ideal. It is a belief, a faith not a 100% truth in just the same way as any other belief. Since there is this obvious duality between that which is the buddhist ideal and that which is not the
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suenam, thank you for your message. Now I understand what you were questioning. The important sentences of text were meant to be the three before the one with the phrase "harmlessly enjoyable". And as stated in that last sentence of text we were not always bright and shiny but, important at least to me, we did not have to. It was okay to not be a perfect personality, because nobody w
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Understood. Thank you. Love.
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rrmoderator, thank you for your message. Please let me explain. It seems that similar events occur in different groups. But when a group is discussed in isolation often one sees messages with a meaning like "This group is not good. But other groups are.". It would just be too sad, if someone would get out of Nydahls DW just to get into a similar environment in another group. I wa
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suenam, I may be wrong, but are you intentionally trying to distract from my original posting? I am not open to that. Maybe it has not become clear: I do not have a single little bit of trust towards buddhism or buddhists anymore. I explicitly forbid any buddhist leader, teacher or whatever to try to force teachings into or manipulate my life in any way. Doing so is against my expressed wil
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suenam, some sources point into the direction that the body of a buddhist leader can be seen as a portal through which the conscious being which incarnated many times before and at present in this body can continue to follow its interests in this world. Accordingly, buddhist teachings contain references to periods of time which are beyond the life span of a single person. We do not have to bel
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Hi to all, first I would like to thank this forum. It has been a great source and help. I am sorry to write these words. I value ethical values as much as many other do. In times though, in which ethical values are misused to lead people into dependence and exploitation or even to alienate people from these ethical values it is necessary to be aware of potential dangers. I am looking bac
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