So, RealLove has now posted an article on its website that 'Real Love is Not A Cult' and it goes on to explain why - in the usual RealLove way of course! Yet. Very recently, despite this 'We are not a cult' post, Cult Leader and Guru of RealLove, has been at it again. His finger inserted unexpectedly where it had no right to go in a poor unsuspecting victim of a 'lo
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Joner, you are indeed a Cult Apologist and should not be on this forum. Here we go, all cheers for Cult Apologist and Supporter Joner – we all knew that this sort of post would not take too long to come along. Just as RealLove itself and the various creepy Meetups groups have asked adherents to do in the past it seems Pete & Nikki, Ben, Kathryn (the naked holder), Tara, Kimberly (another n
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Some things to reflect upon if you are considering joining or participating in any of these RealLove Cult based groups masquerading as coaching, group therapy or a loving and safe place to share your life with others. Don’t be fooled, they may not be running an exclusive RealLove destructive cult group session with close attachment to destructive cult group founder Greg Baer – but they ARE doing
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It’s now a year on since Real Love UK closed its doors. To replace their planned ’12-month program’ they substituted it with a program to unhook people from their excess dependency on Real Love and into a better psychological place. However, Real Love lives on despite Pete and Nikki Uglow giving it up. Kimberley Stretthill has taken over from where Pete and Nikki left off with her group, calle
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BEWARE - Real Love (False Coaching leading to Mormonism) Link brings up some very pertinent points about RealLove. Since it stopped in the UK about a year ago, it seems to have gone somewhat underground. RealLove Europe is run by Greg Baer’s favourite nude adult baby, whom he approves and fetes. But RL Europe is not widely publicised and appears to be more underground and virtually non-exist
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BEWARE - Real Love (False Coaching leading to Mormonism) Link brings up some very pertinent points about RealLove. Since it stopped in the UK about a year ago, it seems to have gone somewhat underground. RealLove Europe is run by Greg Baer’s favourite nude adult baby, whom he approves and fetes. But RL Europe is not widely publicised and appears to be more underground and virtually non-existen
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At some time the beliefs begin to crack, the ground beneath your feet is unstable and full of sinkholes, there are voids in your consciousness and so, without realising you start to pull away from the Truth you know as RealLove©Trademark Registered because there is a deep feeling that something is not right. Maybe you’ve missed something, so you pull away a little in order to get some perspective
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Thank you for the reminder, Moderator. No one on this message board fills the profile of being someone who lives and thrives on victimhood. No one. In fact, the majority of shares are the experiences people have endured with cults and LGAT's and are the experiences of people who have genuinely been a true 'victim' in every sense of the word. Those sorts of people who live and th
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There are those who dabble in RealLove and those who fully embrace it to the exclusion of everything else. There's a difference in how people's lives will unfold depending on which one you choose to follow. If you just read the books, go to groups and listen in on the odd phone call or attend the odd seminar or weekend course you will just plod along and gradually either get bored wi
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This thread was started by a person who chose to describe what they thought they had experienced with RealLove - and that was as an LGAT. It doesn’t function as a bonafide LGAT on many levels, even though RealLove does do group awareness training in the workplace. After reading several books on cults, mind control etc. I am convinced it is, or at least has morphed into a full on destructive cult
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Anon 541, Are you justifying a cult here? See a person destroyed by a cult, by RealLove, and then judge your own words of justification. When people are assisted back into normal life again, one of the things the therapist or counsellor will do with them is to find anything that was or may have been positive from the experience. This is to give them hope and is a therapeutic tool - NOT a j
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One thing cult groups, like RealLove, are known for is their incessant reeling in of new adherents, or believers. This is, and always has been achieved by various means of ‘proselytizing’. Put simply, just going out into the big wide world of life and ‘selling’ or ‘marketing’ the idea, values and principles of said cult to anyone and everyone, family and strangers, friends and acquaintances and
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I know my last three posts about what happens as people become more pulled into RealLove were long one’s, but I wanted to share as many of the angles I could, so that people could begin to see and/or realise how they, or someone they know of, might be, or are being pulled into RealLove or another cult. It really is all the little details that collectively show what something really is, as very of
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In reply to post on March 17 2018 at 06:42 by ANON541, ANON541 Absolutely fine to disagree - and healthy! I will agree that there are a lot of people in social welfare work, counselling and therapy that are as you say 'woefully inadequate', but that does not mean that we can write off this area of help completely. As with the law of averages in everything, there is a range of good,
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So, we’ve done a few groups and maybe read a book and seen a video on Youtube, shared phone numbers, got onto the Secret Facebook page and are now hooked in to a network of people who will take a phone call from you when a RealLove emergency arises. What is that you ask? Well, that is when you feel a bit low, sad, depressed, anxious or have demonstrated ‘getting and protecting’ behaviours and you
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So, we tentatively go along to group – confused and trying to understand things, things we’ll never understand because we’re not meant to. Double-binds are designed to utterly confuse and not make sense, no matter which way you look at it. But some people, try as they may, will keep on trying to work them out, to figure them out, totally believing that they are at fault. In actual fact, there is
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Yes Corboy, You are so very, very right! My alarm bells went off pretty early, almost immediately, but I trusted these people very much so and gave it the benefit of the doubt. However, it never got beyond that point despite how much I really, truly tried to embrace this organisation. And boy, did I try. Genuinely so. But, it just grinded away every day. It just felt so wrong. I never got stra
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This is a long post – but one that explains the beginning of how people initially and blindly get drawn into joining Real Love, and how the practices used and employed are ALL well-known, and well-used practices that ALL the large and small, known and unknown cult groups have used and do still do use to this day. Life Coaching does not employ these methods and neither do professionally trained an
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Hello 0123.george, You are not the only one experiencing this! There are others. Have a look at the other thread on Real Love - it can be found in "Cults, Sects and New Religious Movements" under the title Real Love. I too fully feel the same as you do and have made a promise to be there for anyone who eventually gets out of Real Love and sees the light for what it is and what ha
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Apparently all this 'unconditional love' that is traded for money really is REAL. It's a trade. We all know that therefore it cannot be unconditional because the conditions underpinning this trade is the transference of money from one person to another for the act of 'getting loved'. But it is 'real' and 'unconditional' love that is being given because
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Hey Coody, I really, totally and fully understand all you are saying! It is totally outrageous and as you can see RealLove is clearly NOT life coaching at all. It is a cult organisation using thought-reform techniques to alter people's thoughts and behaviours. RealLove is really quite evil and not loving by any stretch of the imagination. I don't think that the UK version run by c
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Thank you Corboy, These reviews totally validate ALL of my experiences with RealLove and RealLove people. This is confirmation for me personally that I was right all along and that I am not this insane person I am being made out to be. I have had such a struggle to reject being pulled in to do RealLove and boy am I thankful that I stood up to it. It has been really stressful and I have been ma
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NHFNP, I will be most interested to hear about how you manage to get your son back into the real world. Some more points to note. The title, Dr Greg Baer refers to his being an eye surgeon. That's all. He is not qualified in psychology - he just read a lot about it and formed his own conclusions. Further, Greg, and RealLove do not believe in psychotherapy, psychiatry, psychological
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Dear NHFNP, Firstly, I really do totally 'get' where you are coming from. If you read all the posts in this thread, as well as the post REAL LOVE in the thread on 'Cults, Sects and New Religious Movements' you will be able to get a better idea of what is going on in Real Love. I was nearly pulled in, and can see exactly what they are doing with your son. I however, had a
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So, I was suspicious of Real Love from the start. I embraced it, and 6 months down the track feel the same – except even more suspicious of it, and not only that but deeply concerned about the people who have been drawn into this cult organization. I read four books. Each extremely repetitive and full of Greg Baer’s own ideas and principles with some massive broad sweeping statements – none of
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Interesting. Reading the Real Love Terms of Agreement. Last updated October 2014. It clearly states that RL is "not a substitute for proper medical attention, diagnosis, or treatment, or for other professional mental health or medical services." Yet, what I have seen happening in groups, and what people have gone through with 'interventions' is exactly this. While RL prom
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Don't be fooled by Dr Greg Baer's 'Real Love' Coaching program to teach you how to be unconditionally loving. After learning first-hand and immersing myself in this organisation I can safely state at the end of 6 months, the same as I stated at the beginning that it is most definitely a cult. It ticks every box. Is very clever and deceptive in many ways. It is disguised as a &
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Hi bunny_mac, I moved in to lodge with a house of people. Two of them do RealLove and a group is run once a week in the house. I thought from the very beginning that it all sounded a bit weird and cult like, but was assured it was not. Having studied three university degrees I decided to immerse myself into it all and learn for myself what it was all about - reading books, attending groups, li
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ANON 541 I can only but totally agree with you. I am however very concerned for genuinely mentally and emotionally vulnerable people who may get entangled in this system, who really do need professional help - which sadly has seen the brunt of NHS cuts to services. Trying to extricate myself at the moment, but being made to feel there is something wrong with me, I will never ever find love in my
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They are a fellow resident of wells. but not a member of the church. they have family that live in close proximity to what has been called the "HQ". QuoteHythlodaeusQuotechris99Apparently, I am demonic for talkin and sharing what I know on this forum! I have heard it more than once that I talked about them like they were dogs!!!!!!! So, YMBBA - please don't approach me wit
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