A coupe of weeks ago I posted a Korean news report about the arrest of the founders in the year 2000. Report on Youtube for easier viewing: A friend recently provided a translation of the story (below) What is interesting is the mention of an earlier doomsday date of 1993. As far as I recall that prediction didn't pan out. And also interesting is the weapons found at the cult�
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QuoteWishwashOk, so Innersound has reported copyright violations to DepositFiles where the chants and speeches were placed online and got them taken down That reminds me of Scientology denying the Evil Galactic Warlord Xenu featured heavily in higher levels of involvement. And then when said material appeared online, they claimed it was a violation of their copyrights. lol. A name that feat
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How open are they within the group about the connection to Jungshim and its temple complex? Is it something they keep quiet about to new recruits and save it for deeper members or is it something they are open about? And another question, is there anything different about the "ancestor training". Is it just the same kind of massage with a different name and a higher price tag or is
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QuoteWishwashEncouraging news... one of the Jungshim Masters in Sydney Australia has resigned. If one can see the light many can see the light, so lets keep pushing forward- this is clearly the beginning of the end. That's good news. Is that person willing to share his/her experiences and reasons for leaving? And do they call them Jungshim Masters in Australia? Speaking of Australia, I
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Thanks. I only just caught wind of this group last week when one of my former Korean students posted a comment on the Supreme Master's Facebook. I remember thinking "That looks incredibly cultic and sus."
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QuoteWishwashOK Innersound and your trainees, this is how things are going to move forward from this point. Everyday something is going to be posted online: trainee's name's , your grandmaster's speeches, your chants, your book of heaven- until everything is online- if you want to make it stop we want a video of Master Oh making a public apologye Please include me in that apology
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Korean news report from 2000 some pretty cool weaponry. Does the London branch stockpile weapons?
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QuotePeter DaleyQuoteSimonBI am sorry that some of you feel violated and misled by Innersound. I expect these words won’t remedy your situation but I am very open to receive emails from those of you who wish to engage in civil conversation. Thanks Simon. Appreciate the sentiment. At the moment I'd rather ask questions where they can seen and perhaps answered by others. I may email you in
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QuoteSimonBI am sorry that some of you feel violated and misled by Innersound. I expect these words won’t remedy your situation but I am very open to receive emails from those of you who wish to engage in civil conversation. Thanks Simon. Appreciate the sentiment. At the moment I'd rather ask questions where they can seen and perhaps answered by others. I may email you in the future, and
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QuoteJCrossik They are generally more misguided than cruel and callous. I think it's important to differentiate between the levels of involvement. I'm sure there are "masters" that sincerely believe they are trying to help people. But behind them, Master Oh and his Korean masters above him - we have a group of very callous and cruel and ruthless individuals. I've b
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QuoteSimonB Firstly Innersoundwatch Cultnews.com is a domain owned by Rick Ross and its purpose is to promote his goals alone. It is a blog and can hardly be labelled as a source of reliable news. The article in question is illegal and wouldn’t make it anywhere near a reputable media or publishing company. You must have realised by now that the internet is uncensored and anyone can say anything
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QuoteTheScientist One needs to keep in mind that western science and traditional eastern therapies do not mix well. Western science’s predominant paradigm is to study the parts and not the whole, for example, the effect of a particular drug or therapy on the heart, or lungs, or cell lymphoma. The eastern methodology, on the other hand, takes into account the whole individual, which means, his phy
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QuoteEverVigilant She gave me a few more details. The man was an executive at a large financial firm, and she said "And then he gave me a book that justified it." After my expression of WTF, she said, "Yeah, the Law of Attraction." Was the book Rhonda Byrne's The Secret? She has a new book out called "Magic".. I think that says it all.
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QuoteInnersoundwatchMaster Oh has now been telling his London masters, who of course are passing it on to all the members, that the Mother Grandmaster and Jungshim have been pardoned by the Korean government. Speaking of Jungshim, here's an interesting PDF file produced by them identifying the convicted criminals as founder and it also mentions that they were chosen by the Supreme God as
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Well I'm in London for the weekend so I thought I would drop by and perhaps have a chat with Leigh Anne in particular or anyone else regarding the threats I received back in 2008. Since the threats were delieverd at my place of work without notice - 7 or 8 members just turned up, I thought I'd make a surprise visit also. Apparently Leigh Anne wasn't there, but I'm a little
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A couple of recent responses from Mannam. Wow...
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And Zac on his blog here is really finding the dirt on these guys. He has four of five posts up exploring different aspects of the cult and the ties between the cult proper and the front group Mannam both in Korea and the US: And I think the most amazing thing I've read on all this is an easy from a Korean university student which shows the group's defense of "cultural misunde
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Hey paprTiger, Nice to see you you! And this is an amazing situation here in Korea. I've been observing cults here for almost ten years and I've never seen anything like this. In the past when I've encountered a group and shared information about it online I could expect to know personally perhaps a couple of people who had heard of it, encountered it, or know someone who had
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Quotesimplify I came across this organisation at a performance in West London recently. They were billed as a "Traditional Korean(South) Music Group fresh from the Olympic Stadium". Actually, it turns out that they had had nothing official to do with the Olympics. Maybe their bus went past the Olympic Stadium on its way to West London?
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Quotesimplify By the way the dance group goes under the name of the Qi Culture Theatre Group (aka Jungshim Dance group) . Well that's strange. I have two letters from Ki Health (former name) and their lawyers Carter Ruck denying any connection between Jungshim and Ki Health and threatening to sue. And the letters were hand delivered at my place of work in Korea by members of Jungshim wh
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QuoteWishwash "Chunmo nim give all the life to the masters and the heavenly people to become heaven and earth and become owner of the whole universe. Well if that's legit I would like to wish them all the best with their plans for world domination and eventual ownership of the whole universe. I'm sure it'll be nice not having to pay those record rental prices for your Lon
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Hello BalancedView. First of all, thank you for posting. I hope the compulsion that led you to write that will not desert you and will to continue to share your experiences here and perhaps answer a few of my questions and any others that may be put to you. I know it’s not always easy to come onto a site like this and defend a group that has been criticized, but I hope you’ll continue and tha
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